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Post by dragonflight on Feb 23, 2017 8:35:45 GMT -5
Do any Durango owners have experience regarding upgrading tires from the OEM product to a higher rated tire?
I'm considering changing from my factory 235 80R 16 load range E 80 psi tires to a Goodyear 235 85 R 16 load range G 110 psi wheel and tire setup. These are the Goodyear G614 RST tires.
I understand that I need to verify the offset is zero, and check the bolt pattern, and that there is no increase in the axle weight rating or the GVWR.
Operationally, are there any concerns? What has been your experience?
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Post by jetzen on Feb 23, 2017 11:01:50 GMT -5
Hi dragonflight,
couple questions/comments, first the wheels, don't know what year or model Durango you have but as far as I know the Durango 2500 and Durango Gold already have 110 psi rated wheels on them just need to change out the valve stems so you might want to check it will save you some bucks. Second the Goodyear G614's are a great tire no doubt about that but there are several lower cost options that are just as good, the Sailun S637 and the Kenda Klever A/P both come G rated and substantially less expensive. The Sailun's are ST's while the Kenda's are LT's. On my Current 5ver I'm running the Kenda's, when the new Durango comes in I will be swapping them out with the Kenda's within the year. |
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Post by Chuck on Feb 26, 2017 14:13:02 GMT -5
Well I was wondering about my Provider ST235/80R16 Nitrogen Filled tires, so I started looking at Nitrogen Filled tires and if I could just add regular air to them if they were low ...... Well after about 30 pages of mathematics I came to the conclusion that filling your tires with Nitrogen is like buying a car or trailer. A hundred people say it's good and a hundred people say your wasting your money and there is only a .002 difference at any given time Ugh ....  Sooooooooo I believe I will just add regular air when needed since I check my tires on our trips ever morning along with the Oil and water .... An comments  |
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Post by lynnmor on Feb 26, 2017 19:00:31 GMT -5
Well I was wondering about my Provider ST235/80R16 Nitrogen Filled tires, so I started looking at Nitrogen Filled tires and if I could just add regular air to them if they were low ...... Well after about 30 pages of mathematics I came to the conclusion that filling your tires with Nitrogen is like buying a car or trailer. A hundred people say it's good and a hundred people say your wasting your money and there is only a .002 difference at any given time Ugh .... Sooooooooo I believe I will just add regular air when needed since I check my tires on our trips ever morning along with the Oil and water .... An comments Good choice! Better to have the tires properly inflated all the time then to run around looking for nitrogen on tires that are low. For our purposes, nitrogen is just a money making gimmick. |
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Post by joecamper on Feb 27, 2017 16:07:33 GMT -5
Well I was wondering about my Provider ST235/80R16 Nitrogen Filled tires, so I started looking at Nitrogen Filled tires and if I could just add regular air to them if they were low ...... Well after about 30 pages of mathematics I came to the conclusion that filling your tires with Nitrogen is like buying a car or trailer. A hundred people say it's good and a hundred people say your wasting your money and there is only a .002 difference at any given time Ugh .... Sooooooooo I believe I will just add regular air when needed since I check my tires on our trips ever morning along with the Oil and water .... An comments Good choice! Better to have the tires properly inflated all the time then to run around looking for nitrogen on tires that are low. For our purposes, nitrogen is just a money making gimmick. I agree. I've always thought the whole nitrogen thing was just a money making scheme. |
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Post by shogunles on Mar 23, 2017 14:14:32 GMT -5
I always change out the OEM Garbage Tires as soon as I get my hands on it. With the weight of my DG 382MBQ, I am more comfortable with a Load Range G Tire than E. On my previous fiver, I used Sailun 637's. I put about 10,000 miles on them. Including a cross country trip NY to west coast and back. The tread held up great and there were no signs of issue. Yes they come from China. But not too many tires today, especially ST Tires, are manufactured elsewhere. They are also affordable in the $150 a tire range. Do not let the price fool you into thinking these are cheap tires. IMHO, they are very well made and keep their tread longer. Check Simple Tire. That is where I got mine. Good Luck!
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Post by Edd505 on Mar 23, 2017 21:58:44 GMT -5
Mine had LT's before i took delivery, let them keep the new ST's. Good reviews on the G rated and that's likely my next tire, G LT's.
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Post by Chuck on Mar 26, 2017 12:58:38 GMT -5
Well
I'm starting to get a little scared her with the New Provider ST235/80R16's that came on my G384FLT, if I can get
a year out of them I would be happy.
But it sure sounds as if that it may not be possible they way you all are talking, Ugh ...
Chuck
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Post by Edd505 on Mar 27, 2017 22:19:05 GMT -5
chuck Craigs list your tires and use the $$ to get LT's. I had no problem selling the St's off my prior 5W. Craigs list is local, they pickup and pay cash.
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Post by lynnmor on Mar 28, 2017 8:03:44 GMT -5
chuck Craigs list your tires and use the $$ to get LT's. I had no problem selling the St's off my prior 5W. Craigs list is local, they pickup and pay cash. I did that as well, no China Bombs for me. |
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Post by cajuncamp on Mar 29, 2017 20:23:25 GMT -5
Well I'm starting to get a little scared her with the New Provider ST235/80R16's that came on my G384FLT, if I can get a year out of them I would be happy. But it sure sounds as if that it may not be possible they way you all are talking, Ugh ... Chuck |
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Post by cajuncamp on Mar 29, 2017 20:40:34 GMT -5
I just started our purchase for G366FBT and these tires worry me. looking at data wall it reads (max load single 3520 ). No math wizard but that equals 14080 total weight. The mind boggling thing is MVGW on camper is 14500. So if wife loads unit to the gills I'm over on tire weight. That leads me to buying tires before ever putting unit in campground. Just an good ole extra measure going with EzTire monitor also. I know it has saved me twice from a blowout and $$$$ to pay for the damage it could have done.
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Post by lynnmor on Mar 30, 2017 7:54:21 GMT -5
I just started our purchase for G366FBT and these tires worry me. looking at data wall it reads (max load single 3520 ). No math wizard but that equals 14080 total weight. The mind boggling thing is MVGW on camper is 14500. So if wife loads unit to the gills I'm over on tire weight. That leads me to buying tires before ever putting unit in campground. Just an good ole extra measure going with EzTire monitor also. I know it has saved me twice from a blowout and $$$$ to pay for the damage it could have done. A significant portion of that 14,500 lb will be resting on the truck. For example, if you have 2000 lb of pin weight, the tires will be carrying 12,500 lb. That said, I still don't like the way tire sizes are kept to a minimum and the cheapest available being used. |
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Post by Edd505 on Mar 30, 2017 23:19:32 GMT -5
I think ST G rated where available as an option. There are a couple companies doing G LT's as an alternative. I had a 2014 that blew a tire early 2016 w/ the manufacture date of 2013 (forgot the month) I check pressure every time the 5W moves and normal drive speed is 65 a bit higher if passing, $1500 damage per CW. lynnmor is correct some of the weight transfers to the truck.
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Post by shogunles on Mar 31, 2017 14:46:58 GMT -5
Also note that the ST E Rated Tires have a speed rating of 65mph! I typically do not go over 65 anyway. However, with the G Rated Speed Rating at 75mph, it gives a little cushion.
I also invested in the Tire Minder TPMS. And it works great. Another worthy investment. Upgrading tires and TPMS System is financially justified. Especially if you have damage on your unit from a blown China Bomb OEM Tire. It only took one blow out with damage 13 years ago to make up my mind!
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Post by ronc on Apr 30, 2017 15:41:13 GMT -5
There was some comment on Nitrogen being "Just a money making scheme". While partially true, Nitrogen is superior to "normal air" in two ways. First, the Nitrogen molecule is larger than the average size of the molecules that make up "air" (Nitrogen, Oxygen, Carbon Dioxide, etc.) ... the result is that over time, Nitrogen filled tires are less likely to lose pressure due to the natural migration of the molecules out of the pressurized environment (tire). The second is that Nitrogen is an inert gas and will not support combustion. Tire fires do happen and Nitrogen ensures that won't happen.
With regard on the upgrade to the Goodyear G614 G rated tires. Good choice as this is exactly what I did. Just make sure that your wheels will allow for the 110 psi the tires need to carry their maximum load (3,750 lbs). No need to worry about wheel offset, as your factory wheels meet that requirement.
I have about 10,000 trouble free miles on my G614's and they still look new. I have (and strongly recommend) a tire pressure monitoring system. Mine is a Truck Systems Technology (TST) 507 and I have a monitor on all 10 tires (6 on the truck and 4 on the 5'er). There are several other brands besides TST, so I'm not advocating the brand, just the technology ... I consider a TPMS mandatory safety equipment.
Hope this is helpful
BTW .... I use regular “air” myself, just much more convenient.
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Post by chipporter on Jun 4, 2017 18:17:08 GMT -5
Well I was wondering about my Provider ST235/80R16 Nitrogen Filled tires, so I started looking at Nitrogen Filled tires and if I could just add regular air to them if they were low ...... Well after about 30 pages of mathematics I came to the conclusion that filling your tires with Nitrogen is like buying a car or trailer. A hundred people say it's good and a hundred people say your wasting your money and there is only a .002 difference at any given time Ugh .... Sooooooooo I believe I will just add regular air when needed since I check my tires on our trips ever morning along with the Oil and water .... An comments Good choice! Better to have the tires properly inflated all the time then to run around looking for nitrogen on tires that are low. For our purposes, nitrogen is just a money making gimmick. |
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Post by chipporter on Jun 4, 2017 18:20:40 GMT -5
My understanding is that all the nitrogen is good for is the tire pressure won't go down as fast as air. I guess nitrogen molecules are bigger and can't escape through the tire as fast. But, yes - just top them off with air when required.
Go to the Tire Rack website - they have something like "Why Nitrogen" or something like that...
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Post by chipporter on Jun 4, 2017 18:21:20 GMT -5
Hi dragonflight,
couple questions/comments, first the wheels, don't know what year or model Durango you have but as far as I know the Durango 2500 and Durango Gold already have 110 psi rated wheels on them just need to change out the valve stems so you might want to check it will save you some bucks. Second the Goodyear G614's are a great tire no doubt about that but there are several lower cost options that are just as good, the Sailun S637 and the Kenda Klever A/P both come G rated and substantially less expensive. The Sailun's are ST's while the Kenda's are LT's. On my Current 5ver I'm running the Kenda's, when the new Durango comes in I will be swapping them out with the Kenda's within the year. |
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Post by chipporter on Jun 4, 2017 18:23:05 GMT -5
Yes - I upgraded to the Goodyears and all they did on my stock wheels (2017 2500 / 318 RLT) was put in the metal valve stems...
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