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Post by ronc on Sept 8, 2018 21:43:59 GMT -5
I remember reading a few years ago that the difference between LT and ST was the sidewalls. The ST were made for sharp, scuffing turns. That is, if my memory is still working! Nope ... you remember it correctly. ST tires generally do have stiffer sidewalls designed to resist the scuffing they take when we jackknife our dual (or triple) axle trailers. |
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Post by ronc on Sept 9, 2018 11:23:33 GMT -5
I realize that we’ve all got budgets to deal with, but (IMO) price is the least important factor in selecting tires. It is seducing to think you can get “just as good” for less money, but that hasn’t been my experience. In life, you almost always get what you pay for ... again, just IMO. Best of luck with your new tires. I have, as yet, to read of a Sailun failure due to a defective tire. Hell, I can't even think of any posts I've read of even a =flat= on a Sailun, though I'm sure they've happened. I have no personal experience with them, and likely never will, as I have no desire to have a rig heavy enough to need them; just passing on what I've been reading around the RV fora for the past 3-4 years. There are some others out there that also have a good rep, especially in the haulage business, and seem to be creeping into the RV market. Provider, being one brand. Lyle Just google Sailun 637 failure and you can read about them ... here is just one from the Heartland Owners Forum: "so like most I was worried about the POS tow max that came on my trailer which was PRE g series tires.. so about 6 months ago bought 7 of those highly rated sailun g rubber doughnuts for my house on wheels from simple tire... well..im prepping my rig for a 4 week trip and move the trailer from storage shop to my house and I feel an odd hitch in my giddy up.......yep....it was flat as a pancake an flapping....tread was totally separated on about 2/3 of tire....huge bubble in side....it must blew while parked upon further inspection I looks like one on other side has early signs of tread separation as well....  I have an appointment with my tire guy for some goodyear g's on Tuesday.....he told me I was 3rd person this month with blown sailun he has seen....is gonna check my codes to see if they are same lot... so tired of this tire drama!" Point is that they ALL have trouble. Towing a fifth wheel, especially a heavy one, and hitting curbs, jackknifing, etc. puts whatever tires you have through hell. Get the heaviest duty tires you can because anything else can let you down.<style></style> |
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Post by capemayal on Sept 9, 2018 12:59:02 GMT -5
How about Toyo tires. I put them on my dually several years ago,LT's, and was very satisfied.
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Post by nvguy on Sept 9, 2018 21:11:59 GMT -5
A bunch of guys I run off road with run Toyos with good results. Assuming they make the size you need, they ought to be a good bet.
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Post by Chuck on Sept 14, 2018 10:32:07 GMT -5
I now have 6K on 16" G rated Sailun's an no failures, only 10pds lose of air between the 4 tires ... Safe Travels  Chuck |
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Post by cajuncamp on Sept 17, 2018 12:32:19 GMT -5
In 18 months I have put little over 10K on my G rated 16"Sailun's. I haven't had any failures as for wear and tear. Only misfortune was a welding rod I picked up at a campground. My TPMS let me know I had an issue before I even left the campground. Patched tire up and it's still rolling strong..
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Post by Edd505 on Sept 17, 2018 16:09:48 GMT -5
I remember reading a few years ago that the difference between LT and ST was the sidewalls. The ST were made for sharp, scuffing turns. That is, if my memory is still working! Correct but I have been out since 2/18 (still out) and have had one back in site, everything else has been pull through. I don't think and occasional back in is an issue, on my 3rd 5w and all have had LT's. |
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Post by ronc on Oct 17, 2018 17:00:00 GMT -5
I remember reading a few years ago that the difference between LT and ST was the sidewalls. The ST were made for sharp, scuffing turns. That is, if my memory is still working! Correct but I have been out since 2/18 (still out) and have had one back in site, everything else has been pull through. I don't think and occasional back in is an issue, on my 3rd 5w and all have had LT's. The industry is changing and there are some pretty good ST tires that actually have a good speed rating. But I’m with you on preferring LT tires. I am particularly high on the Goodyear G114 tire ... about as good as it gets for 5th wheels. They are pricey but worth it ... IMO. |
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Post by dragonflight on Feb 12, 2019 11:17:48 GMT -5
Thanks to all of you for sharing your experiences and opinions. I find the forums to be very valuable sources of real world operational based information.
I did end up installing a set of Goodyear G614s with the proper alloy wheels and metal valve stems. I installed a TPMS on each of my 10 (dually) stems. I also upgraded my suspension to a heavy duty system including a wet bolt kit. I'm using a nitrogen fill on all tires.
Results? First, no tire failures or problems since installing over 18,000 miles ago, including an 8 week trip between NH and Homer, AK and return. The ALCAN is "unkind" to tires!
Second, the TireMinder TPMS worked flawlessly. It did warn me of a slow leak which, upon investigation, was the result of a loose lock nut on a valve stem. Being able to monitor both tire pressure and temperature was very helpful.
Third, I'm a commercial pilot with a military background. We've used dry nitrogen in aircraft tires since WWII. The reasons are somewhat different, but I'm convinced that there are real benefits. Having said that, the most important thing is proper inflation, so use air without concern.
The suspension upgrade worked nicely with the tire upgrade, compensating for the higher tire pressure effects on ride quality. The ride was so much better that our usual need to pick up the interior after a days drive was eliminated.
So, overall I'm very well satisfied with my decision to make these improvements, and I'll stick with the Goodyears unless I have a reason to change.
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ted
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Post by ted on Feb 20, 2019 5:30:15 GMT -5
I'm still running the Provider ST 235's E that came on my Gold. Last year I put about 10,000 miles on them, and they probably have a total of 12,500. From all appearance they look fine. It's my understanding that the factory now uses a load range G on the new Gold's. I see where a lot have upgraded the tires already. I was just wondering if anyone has experienced a pre-mature blow out with the original Provider tires? I have the TPMS and from all appearance the tires seem to be in good shape. The tires were manufactured in 17.
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Post by laknox on Feb 20, 2019 11:14:12 GMT -5
I'm still running the Provider ST 235's E that came on my Gold. Last year I put about 10,000 miles on them, and they probably have a total of 12,500. From all appearance they look fine. It's my understanding that the factory now uses a load range G on the new Gold's. I see where a lot have upgraded the tires already. I was just wondering if anyone has experienced a pre-mature blow out with the original Provider tires? I have the TPMS and from all appearance the tires seem to be in good shape. The tires were manufactured in 17. The Providers seem to have a fair rep these days. Maybe not quite like Sailuns, but I've not heard many, if any, stories of Providers going bad. We have Provider G's on our 30' GN flatbed trailer. So far, I like 'em. Lyle |
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Post by welovedisney on Feb 28, 2019 9:25:30 GMT -5
just throwing this out there for comments, but has anyone used or heard of Greenball tires? was doing a search on simple tires and they came up
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Post by laknox on Feb 28, 2019 10:29:24 GMT -5
just throwing this out there for comments, but has anyone used or heard of Greenball tires? was doing a search on simple tires and they came up You mean Greenblows? Just more Chinese junk. I'd rather have a Carlisle over them, any day. GY Endurance seems to be one of the better tires these days, though they're the most expensive of the D/E 15" class, usually. In 16", there are a =lot= more choices, including LT tires. I sure wish Sailun would enter the D/E rating market, given the track record of their G rated tires. Lyle |
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routerguy
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Post by routerguy on Jul 31, 2019 11:39:51 GMT -5
Just took ownership of 2020 KZ Durango they came with GoodRide ST last week, Just order GoodYear Endurance. installing them this week.
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ted
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Post by ted on Aug 2, 2019 5:19:13 GMT -5
Well I never saw any first hand experience of bad reports on the Providers that come on the Golds, so we will trust them for one more trip to the Rally next week in Indiana. I still think the TPMS system is some of the best insurance to prevent a blowout.
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routerguy
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Post by routerguy on Aug 2, 2019 16:45:46 GMT -5
My 2020 Durango half ton came with goodrides st I just picked up the trailer last week. Today before first trip I put on Goodyear endurance
I had them on my last trailer 2 years 16,000 miles
Chris
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Post by laknox on Aug 5, 2019 10:41:22 GMT -5
I'd not really looked at the tires on my '17 D1500 277RLT before, but in prep for our annual family boondocker, I checked them closely and was surprised to find that, even though they're China bombs, they're speed rated for 81 mph! Given that I rarely go over 65, that's a decent margin, IMO. Not that I won't replace them, likely next year, with (probably) Carlisles, as I've had good luck with them and they're cheaper than the Endurance. Will see what the wallet says when it comes time.
Lyle
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