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Post by roger75 on Jul 4, 2021 13:02:27 GMT -5
I'm sure this subject has been discussed on this forum but I dont know where or how to look for it. I have a 2021 D333 RTL and we love it. But three different times the double ploe 20 amp breaker for the convert was disengaged/thrown. Latest was today. Sitting in the driveway nothing turned on, battery turned off and connected to shore power. Get home from church and opened the door and windows (hot in Tennessee) was ready to put the awning out but the "One Touch" control panel was dead. So checked breaker panel and sure enough the 20 amp breaker was thrown again. There wasn't any load on the Converter, battery was turned off since I'm connected to my 50 amp shore power. Any idea/help?
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Post by Soleman on Jul 4, 2021 14:53:51 GMT -5
I have the same 5ver only it's a 2020.
I have had the breaker for the converter trip multiple times also.
I thought I had found the problem, it was a leak at one of the pump fittings had gotten the electrical connections wet. Easy fix at the pump, however it has tripped twice since then. The last time it tripped I was running both A/C's at the same time trying to cool down quickly on arrival at our camp site in "Hot" Alabama.
I need to install my new Progressive Industries EMSHW50C Surge Protector so I will be checking all electrical connections that I can access at that time.
I am also scheduled in for some minor warranty repairs at the dealer next week so I'll ask if they are able to offer any information and or take a looksee into the cause of this issue?
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I also just remembered that at that same camp site, the water heater would only heat to warm water so I thought maybe something was wrong with the electric heating element?
(I just switched it to gas temporarily till we got to the next camp site).
At the next camp site on the way home the water heater worked fine on electric? So it is possible that the electric pedestal in Alabama had an issue?
NOTE: I have not done any additional troubleshooting since.
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Post by roger75 on Jul 4, 2021 15:51:59 GMT -5
I appreciate your reply Soleman. Will be making appointment at the dealer as soon as we get back from North Carolina. Hope they can figure it out before we leave for Great Falls Montana. Thanks again..
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Post by nvguy on Jul 4, 2021 23:09:46 GMT -5
Couple of things, don't turn the battery off when connected to shore power. The battery serves as a voltage reference for the converter, it also serves as a surge / storage bank for the 12 V system.
Also breakers tend to get weak after several trips- AKA "overcurrent events", and since they are not terribly expensive, replacement then monitoring voltage at the source may "fix" things.
Soleman: Installing a surge protector is a great idea, sounds like you have the same model I have. I went with the hardwired one, simply because I can't leave it behind..
roger75: Look into a surge protector, campgrounds have notoriously poor electrical service.
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Post by laknox on Jul 5, 2021 16:45:18 GMT -5
I have the same 5ver only it's a 2020. I have had the breaker for the converter trip multiple times also. I thought I had found the problem, it was a leak at one of the pump fittings had gotten the electrical connections wet. Easy fix at the pump, however it has tripped twice since then. The last time it tripped I was running both A/C's at the same time trying to cool down quickly on arrival at our camp site in "Hot" Alabama. I need to install my new Progressive Industries EMSHW50C Surge Protector so I will be checking all electrical connections that I can access at that time. I am also scheduled in for some minor warranty repairs at the dealer next week so I'll ask if they are able to offer any information and or take a looksee into the cause of this issue? _______________________________________________________________ I also just remembered that at that same camp site, the water heater would only heat to warm water so I thought maybe something was wrong with the electric heating element? (I just switched it to gas temporarily till we got to the next camp site). At the next camp site on the way home the water heater worked fine on electric? So it is possible that the electric pedestal in Alabama had an issue? NOTE: I have not done any additional troubleshooting since. Are you using a surge protector or anything to check the quality of the power and connections? It's =very= possible that the pedestal had issues. Lyle |
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Post by roger75 on Jul 5, 2021 21:58:08 GMT -5
Yes I have a surge protector ($355) and it's always in use. I didn't know about always leaving the battery on. Will be replacing the breakers tomorrow. So guess your saying if I had left the battery on the converter breaker will not trip? Thanks for the help
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Post by roger75 on Jul 5, 2021 22:02:02 GMT -5
Couple of things, don't turn the battery off when connected to shore power. The battery serves as a voltage reference for the converter, it also serves as a surge / storage bank for the 12 V system. Also breakers tend to get weak after several trips- AKA "overcurrent events", and since they are not terribly expensive, replacement then monitoring voltage at the source may "fix" things. Soleman: Installing a surge protector is a great idea, sounds like you have the same model I have. I went with the hardwired one, simply because I can't leave it behind.. roger75: Look into a surge protector, campgrounds have notoriously poor electrical service. |
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Post by stvnbell0 on Jul 5, 2021 22:30:47 GMT -5
I have a 2019 Durango Gold 356rlt with the same issue. I have been full time in my rig for over two years and that breaker for the converter trips randomly. I would say once every couple months I will notice that batteries are not at 100 percent and go check the breaker to see it tripped. It never makes any sense to me why it tripped. My new idea is running one battery at a time other than when operating the slides or leveling. I have a switch to operate battery 1 2 or both. Maybe 2 batteries charging puts a larger load than the converter can handle.
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Post by laknox on Jul 6, 2021 12:45:46 GMT -5
I have a 2019 Durango Gold 356rlt with the same issue. I have been full time in my rig for over two years and that breaker for the converter trips randomly. I would say once every couple months I will notice that batteries are not at 100 percent and go check the breaker to see it tripped. It never makes any sense to me why it tripped. My new idea is running one battery at a time other than when operating the slides or leveling. I have a switch to operate battery 1 2 or both. Maybe 2 batteries charging puts a larger load than the converter can handle. Once you're out of warranty, replace the converter with a GOOD one, like just about anything from Progressive Dynamics. Biggest thing is that, depending on the model, you can get ones that have 3 or 4-stage charging, where the converter charges your batteries at differing voltages, including short bursts of higher voltage (like 15-17v) for a few minutes every so often. This helps to stir up the electrolyte and keeps the batteries from sulfating. One of the upgrades that I plan on doing...after the 2nd A/C. :-) Lyle |
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Post by Soleman on Jul 6, 2021 13:00:39 GMT -5
Sounds good!
DW just loves when I tell her we need to buy/up-grade something else, "usually I can duck in time" "usually!".
I think I'll just text her this one.
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Post by laknox on Jul 6, 2021 13:06:46 GMT -5
Sounds good! DW just loves when I tell her we need to buy/up-grade something else, "usually I can duck in time" "usually!". I think I'll just text her this one. So.......don't tell her. :-) Works for me. Sometimes it's nice to have that separate account. :-) Lyle |
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Post by nvguy on Jul 6, 2021 21:27:25 GMT -5
Yes I have a surge protector ($355) and it's always in use. I didn't know about always leaving the battery on. Will be replacing the breakers tomorrow. So guess your saying if I had left the battery on the converter breaker will not trip? Thanks for the help Can't say for sure if that was the actual cause or not, but that's where I would start, but good idea to replace the breaker. |
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Post by roger75 on Jul 10, 2021 8:02:34 GMT -5
Couple of things, don't turn the battery off when connected to shore power. The battery serves as a voltage reference for the converter, it also serves as a surge / storage bank for the 12 V system. Also breakers tend to get weak after several trips- AKA "overcurrent events", and since they are not terribly expensive, replacement then monitoring voltage at the source may "fix" things. Soleman: Installing a surge protector is a great idea, sounds like you have the same model I have. I went with the hardwired one, simply because I can't leave it behind.. roger75: Look into a surge protector, campgrounds have notoriously poor electrical service. |
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Post by roger75 on Jul 10, 2021 8:03:21 GMT -5
I have a 2019 Durango Gold 356rlt with the same issue. I have been full time in my rig for over two years and that breaker for the converter trips randomly. I would say once every couple months I will notice that batteries are not at 100 percent and go check the breaker to see it tripped. It never makes any sense to me why it tripped. My new idea is running one battery at a time other than when operating the slides or leveling. I have a switch to operate battery 1 2 or both. Maybe 2 batteries charging puts a larger load than the converter can handle. |
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Post by roger75 on Jul 10, 2021 8:04:19 GMT -5
I have a 2019 Durango Gold 356rlt with the same issue. I have been full time in my rig for over two years and that breaker for the converter trips randomly. I would say once every couple months I will notice that batteries are not at 100 percent and go check the breaker to see it tripped. It never makes any sense to me why it tripped. My new idea is running one battery at a time other than when operating the slides or leveling. I have a switch to operate battery 1 2 or both. Maybe 2 batteries charging puts a larger load than the converter can handle. |
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Post by roger75 on Jul 10, 2021 8:24:18 GMT -5
2021 D333RTL, had to replace the converter. The 20 amp breaker kept shutting down numerous times so they replaced the breaker as well. I wouldn't know when the breaker went off until the refer started flashing and switch to LP. Checked the battery and it was at 10.5 amps. Now the converter has been replaced wondering if the battery should be replaced as well. I charged the battery and waited couple hours and its reading 12.9 and now the OneTouch app shows the battery at 13.5..
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Post by 660catman on Jul 10, 2021 9:23:39 GMT -5
The app and the pad will show 13.5 when plugged into shore power. It’s ability to last with amp/hr capacity is the key. 12.9 volts at battery is fully charged. Disconnect battery and let it rear for half hour and check voltage again. If you still have issues, get your battery load tested. They can show good voltage and still be bad.
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Post by roger75 on Jul 10, 2021 10:04:03 GMT -5
660 Catman - right on. I will do the battery check like you said when we get back home tomorrow. Appreciate your input. Thanks
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Post by jfspry58 on Jul 11, 2021 0:45:43 GMT -5
I too have a 333RLT and have had the same issue. I also had the same problem with my previous Forest River 5er. It seems that most manufacturers like to use thin double breakers to save space. Mine has the main AC unit on the other half of the double breaker and it appears to be overheating, thus causing it to trip. I simply moved my converter wire to the individual breaker marked washer/dryer (also 20a) since we don’t have one and it has not tripped since. Just be sure both breakers are turned off while moving the wires and there will be no danger of getting shocked. If you’re really uncomfortable working with electricity you can either turn off the main 50a breaker or turn the power off at the pedestal outside. Good luck!
Jay
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Post by nvguy on Jul 11, 2021 22:29:20 GMT -5
I too have a 333RLT and have had the same issue. I also had the same problem with my previous Forest River 5er. It seems that most manufacturers like to use thin double breakers to save space. Mine has the main AC unit on the other half of the double breaker and it appears to be overheating, thus causing it to trip. I simply moved my converter wire to the individual breaker marked washer/dryer (also 20a) since we don’t have one and it has not tripped since. Just be sure both breakers are turned off while moving the wires and there will be no danger of getting shocked. If you’re really uncomfortable working with electricity you can either turn off the main 50a breaker or turn the power off at the pedestal outside. Good luck! Jay That is a great idea!!! |
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