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Post by ford719 on Aug 11, 2023 4:08:54 GMT -5
I have a 382mbq with a Gen Y gooseneck instead of a king pin, that's the way the previous owner set it up. I'm going to get a new truck and besides the drw or srw debate that I have seen my question is can I get away with a 6'5" box instead of a 8' box ? Keep in mind I don't have a slider hitch I have gooseneck. I want a crew cab but with an 8' box and a crew cab it's like driving a school bus with a 42'trailer attached to it.
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Post by laknox on Aug 11, 2023 11:11:46 GMT -5
I have a 382mbq with a Gen Y gooseneck instead of a king pin, that's the way the previous owner set it up. I'm going to get a new truck and besides the drw or srw debate that I have seen my question is can I get away with a 6'5" box instead of a 8' box ? Keep in mind I don't have a slider hitch I have gooseneck. I want a crew cab but with an 8' box and a crew cab it's like driving a school bus with a 42'trailer attached to it. I just picked up a '22 3500HD Denali crew cab with the "standard" bed, 6.7'. While I have a standard pin box and B&W Companion hitch, I have no clearance issues, so far. Touch wood. My only concern with the Gen Y and Gooseboxes is clearance with the bed sides during a tight turn. I have zero experience with either, so am just going off pics. Long or short bed really wouldn't make much difference, IMO. Lyle
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Post by AeroEngr on Aug 11, 2023 19:06:02 GMT -5
I have ample clearance with a 382mbq and a newer GMC 6.6' (6'7", or 79.4" to be precise) bed. I think it really depends on how tight you need (or are willing) to take turns and back up the trailer. I suspect that most folks don't truly ever need to make turns at greater than 50-60 degrees between truck and trailer. Besides, if you're on pavement, a 70 degrees backup is awfully hard on the tires and suspension (at least it LOOKS that way to me), but everyone's needs and comfort levels vary. I pull my 382mbq with a 2021 GMC 6.6' bed and Anderson Ultimate hitch with the kingpin adapter sitting backwards (minimum offset). This configuration effectively moves the trailer pivot point about to about 1" behind the goose ball in the bed. The newer GMC's (2020+) position the goose ball about 2" behind the axle, so the combo gives me roughly 3" of extra clearance compared to a standard bed with goose ball location directly over the axle (like older GMCs and, I think, the other truck brands). I initially wanted to go with GenY or the Reese Goosebox hitch to keep my bed clear when not towing, but I have some *really* tight turns to make into and up my steep/winding driveway and then it gets even tighter when backing into my parking spot near the house. That drove me to go with the Anderson to give me maximum possible cab clearance and maximum turn capability. In the end, it turns out that I probably would have be fine with the GenY or Goosebox hitches, but the extra clearance and turning angle does give me slightly more room for mistakes and little more margin if I'm not on level ground. As laknox says above, you'll want to pay attention to hitch-to-bed rail clearance on the GenY (or Reese Goosebox) and account for how that clearance might be reduced when backing over uneven terrain. This is an dimensional/clearance aspect that I did not consider when i was looking at hitches, so I can't speak to how they might work on my truck. From a turning clearance point of view, I think you'll likely be perfectly fine with the GenY and 6.5' bed, but it will require planning ahead in order to avoid super tight turns. If you're looking at a newer GMC model, you'll get a little extra clearance with the slightly longer bed with the ball behind the axles, but you'll still need to plain ahead.
When I was trying to figure out if I could even make it up my driveway and into my parking spot, I drew up the attached diagrams to help me visualize how far I could swing the trailer towards the cab. Sharing here in case it helps you or someone else in some way.
[well... I can't attach anything for some reason, so here's a link to an image host instead (this has taking me 4 tries.. hope works now): < imgur.com/a/0FDHFq0>
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Post by ford719 on Aug 11, 2023 19:54:54 GMT -5
Thanks for the insight and the link to the drawings they really help visualize how much of turn at those degrees really is.
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Post by Edd505 on Aug 12, 2023 15:19:26 GMT -5
The longer bed gives a better ride and increases the GVW, I personally won't have a short bed, I haul too much dry wall & plywood.
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Post by senior on Sept 7, 2023 10:34:58 GMT -5
Late to the party but maybe my info will help. Ram 2500 6-1/2' box, towing 32' 5th with a GenY & a B & W gooseneck ball. With GenY adjusted all the way up when mounted to trailer & the B & W Ball I have a 9" of bed clearance. I like the clearance for boondocking but I'm thinking of purchasing a Curt Ball which has about a 2" lower shank I could switch out for longer hauls to get the trailer more level. As far as turning radius, I have never had an issue, I am aware so keep a close eye when needing a very tight turn. Love the GenY, don't think I would ever tow with anything else, the flex sure takes the jolt out of the trailer on bigger road irregularities.
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Post by summertime on Sept 12, 2023 13:44:59 GMT -5
When I decided I was going to purchase a 5th wheel, my only thought in a truck was an 8' bed. Yes, it makes the overall rig a little longer but when you are already towing 42 feet, is another 2' in overall length really going to be noticeable in towing and/or turning? Personally, I will never own another truck with less than an 8" bed. What I might loose in turning radius I gain in storage and hauling space.
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