bobnmonica
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Post by bobnmonica on Jul 9, 2023 14:56:30 GMT -5
The state driving laws are confusing. In my state of Nevada and many others, if the GVWR of the trailer is over 10000 lbs, a NCDL license is required, not what the scale says when hooked up. I have a GMC Duelly and a 382MBQ. My scale weight was 5260 steer-7320-Drive-12860-trailer=total-25440 and I was under the 26000 lb limit so I thought I was good. Even called DMV and dealer said good. EVERYONE WAS WRONG. A NCDL is required.
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dora
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Post by dora on Jul 9, 2023 18:26:18 GMT -5
Looking at this Nevada non-commercial study guide for Class A, B & J endorsements it would seem that you're good from not having to get a Class A license, however they get you at the under of 26K pounds with requiring a Class J license based on the weights you posted. Per the attached link pages 5 & 6: J Endorsement Towing: May tow a vehicle (GVWR) or a combination of vehicles (GCWR) of more than 10,000 pounds. The combination of vehicles may not exceed 70 feet in length or have a combined weight rating or a combined weight that exceeds 26,000 pounds. If the combination of the towing vehicle and the towed vehicle(s) exceed 26,000 lbs., a Class A license is required. I think the DMV and the dealer were for sure confused or just not trained right, which sucks if you've already got a trip planned and now have to deal with it all. |
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Post by laknox on Jul 9, 2023 21:16:12 GMT -5
Be willing to bet there's a grace period. That's pretty standard when new regs go into effect.
Lyle
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Post by 660catman on Jul 10, 2023 5:55:51 GMT -5
It’s just as confusing up here in Canada between provinces. Looking at the Nevada link posted I read at the beginning that the GVW rating of the trailer cannot exceed the GVW rating of the truck towing the trailer. What are your numbers?
Here in Manitoba I can double tow my fifth wheel and boat with certain limitations of length and weight with my class of license. As long as GVWR does not exceed 10,000 lbs on each vehicle. The actual weight of the towed vehicles cannot exceed double of the trucks weight. All this of course is limited to your GCVWR of the truck towing.
I have a 2013 Sierra 2500HD with a GVW of 9900 lbs and tow my D250RES and a 17’ Crestliner 1700 Fish Hawk aluminum boat.
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Post by Edd505 on Jul 10, 2023 13:20:26 GMT -5
Looking at this Nevada non-commercial study guide for Class A, B & J endorsements it would seem that you're good from not having to get a Class A license, however they get you at the under of 26K pounds with requiring a Class J license based on the weights you posted. Per the attached link pages 5 & 6: J Endorsement Towing: May tow a vehicle (GVWR) or a combination of vehicles (GCWR) of more than 10,000 pounds. The combination of vehicles may not exceed 70 feet in length or have a combined weight rating or a combined weight that exceeds 26,000 pounds. If the combination of the towing vehicle and the towed vehicle(s) exceed 26,000 lbs., a Class A license is required. I think the DMV and the dealer were for sure confused or just not trained right, which sucks if you've already got a trip planned and now have to deal with it all. my F350 is just under 10K the 5W 13-14K loaded, even at it's heaviest is is under 26K. Dully & something 40ft+ might get you there not sure of dully weights as the SRW has been fine for my towing needs. |
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luscombet8f
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Post by luscombet8f on Jul 10, 2023 20:02:16 GMT -5
Let me just say.... Few folks are MORE DELIGHTED than *I* to say I have Left NV and their horrendous auto insurance rates and tax rates of the Vegas area. Why... it was almost as good as moving from California!!! Do you have the time to listen why I love SOUTH DAKOTA!! I'll start with the Governor... no... you HAVEN'T got that much time....
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Post by laknox on Jul 11, 2023 10:59:10 GMT -5
Let me just say.... Few folks are MORE DELIGHTED than *I* to say I have Left NV and their horrendous auto insurance rates and tax rates of the Vegas area. Why... it was almost as good as moving from California!!! Do you have the time to listen why I love SOUTH DAKOTA!! I'll start with the Governor... no... you HAVEN'T got that much time.... I'd vote for Kristi for President in a heartbeat! An actual sane and stable Republican. Lyle |
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Post by Edd505 on Jul 11, 2023 20:38:14 GMT -5
Kristi Noem another ranch lady like Sandra Day O'connor likely the best justice of the Supreme Court there has been in my life. Good common sense rulings that made sense not political motivated. She was in office most of my career and her decisions affected my work daily.
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Post by laknox on Jul 12, 2023 10:09:43 GMT -5
Kristi Noem another ranch lady like Sandra Day O'connor likely the best justice of the Supreme Court there has been in my life. Good common sense rulings that made sense not political motivated. She was in office most of my career and her decisions affected my work daily. My grandparents were acquainted with her family, as we were farmers and my granddad was very active in many U of A, ASU and numerous other ag-related activities. Lyle |
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bobnmonica
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Post by bobnmonica on Jul 24, 2023 3:50:58 GMT -5
To all, any 5er or trailer in Nevada that weighs 10000 or more require a J or class A license. My truck GVWR is 14000 and the 5er is GVWR of 16000 so the potential weight is there. My 5er dry weighed 13345 so I needed a class A. There are 13 other states that are the same way and a few that do not. I Got my class A and solved. My thing was (hope not) in an accident, the insurance company COULD deny the claim if not legally licensed to drive due to weight or license requirements. A single vehicle over 24000 require a class B. This is many motor homes on the road, just check your state.
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Post by laknox on Jul 24, 2023 11:50:37 GMT -5
To all, any 5er or trailer in Nevada that weighs 10000 or more require a J or class A license. My truck GVWR is 14000 and the 5er is GVWR of 16000 so the potential weight is there. My 5er dry weighed 13345 so I needed a class A. There are 13 other states that are the same way and a few that do not. I Got my class A and solved. My thing was (hope not) in an accident, the insurance company COULD deny the claim if not legally licensed to drive due to weight or license requirements. A single vehicle over 24000 require a class B. This is many motor homes on the road, just check your state. And yet, I can visit there from AZ and have zero issues with my basic Class D license. If I get into an accident, I'm totally legal. Stupid... Lyle |
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bobnmonica
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Post by bobnmonica on Jul 25, 2023 19:42:32 GMT -5
To all, any 5er or trailer in Nevada that weighs 10000 or more require a J or class A license. My truck GVWR is 14000 and the 5er is GVWR of 16000 so the potential weight is there. My 5er dry weighed 13345 so I needed a class A. There are 13 other states that are the same way and a few that do not. I Got my class A and solved. My thing was (hope not) in an accident, the insurance company COULD deny the claim if not legally licensed to drive due to weight or license requirements. A single vehicle over 24000 require a class B. This is many motor homes on the road, just check your state. And yet, I can visit there from AZ and have zero issues with my basic Class D license. If I get into an accident, I'm totally legal. Stupid... Lyle Legally, you need a CDL class B if your 5er or trailer is over 10000 LBS GVWR. It’s on your dmv site. They just do not enforce it but they can. |
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bobnmonica
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Post by bobnmonica on Jul 25, 2023 20:00:51 GMT -5
I errored, no special license is required in Arizona. 17 states do. Switch it up on youtube has a video on should I get a special license to drive an rv.
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bobnmonica
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Post by bobnmonica on Jul 25, 2023 20:04:54 GMT -5
Campanda has the lists of who does and who does not have special RV licenses
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bobnmonica
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2020 GMC Diesel Denali Dully, Durango Gold MBQ 382
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Post by bobnmonica on Aug 6, 2023 23:38:08 GMT -5
Let me just say.... Few folks are MORE DELIGHTED than *I* to say I have Left NV and their horrendous auto insurance rates and tax rates of the Vegas area. Why... it was almost as good as moving from California!!! Do you have the time to listen why I love SOUTH DAKOTA!! I'll start with the Governor... no... you HAVEN'T got that much time.... I have no tickets or accidents. Full coverage on GMC DRW and 5er and a beater Toyota. I don’t think 105 a month is bad. |
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