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Post by termy251 on Mar 9, 2021 8:03:36 GMT -5
Ok, Sorry to be a pain, Just seeing what should be and what should not be. I am hooking a 50 AMP plug on the side of my garage and so I disconnected the 30amp power to the 326rlt. Since it is going to take time, I turned the Battery disconnect switch to off. Came back about 1 hour later and I see the fridge is running. The inverter is still hooked up. Everything else is down in the unit but the inverter which is running the fridge. Is this normal? If you go to store the unit, you would come back to a dead battery unless you pull the cables from the battery.
I would think Battery disconnect should disconnect it completely. What do you guys think?
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Post by lynnmor on Mar 9, 2021 9:27:43 GMT -5
If you can't follow the cable(s) back to the battery, install a proper switch right at the battery.
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Post by termy251 on Mar 9, 2021 9:56:10 GMT -5
I will check tomorrow inside the cargo where the wiring is and see. So it should come from the battery to the switch and then everything else should be coming off the switch. Sounds logical that way. I will see if there are any other wires on the battery itself. But is the inverter supposed to be that way? When you disconnect using the switch everything is supposed to shut down correct?
Just want to make sure when I bring it back to them as to what I am telling them. They have to fix the grey tank pull handle, Warranty work since I just got the unit a couple of weeks ago.
Thanks for all your help. Kerry
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Post by laknox on Mar 9, 2021 10:05:40 GMT -5
In my experience with rigs without inverters, the disconnect would kill everything =but= the slides and jacks. Frankly, if it's a huge concern, get a 110v adapter and just keep in plugged into a house recep until you can figure this out.
As for installing the 50a plug, PLEASE make d@mn sure you do it right! Many people, including professional electricians, mistake a 50a RV plug for 220v and end up frying everything in their rig. A 50a plug is actually 2 110v legs. There are plenty of horror stories about this happening.
Lyle
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Post by termy251 on Mar 9, 2021 10:28:47 GMT -5
For Sure, I have done a lot of research on the 50 amp plug. I have a Breaker box in my garage with a double pole 50amp breaker waiting for the wire. The plug box will be just on the outside of the garage behind the breaker box. Had a 30amp wired for years, Changed that out for the 50. 1 leg 120v to one prong, 1 leg 120v to second prong, One earth ground and one common ground. 4 Prongs total. I also have a Hughes watch surge protector system. So I will make sure all is good before I plug in. I do have it plugged into 110, 50amp to 30amp to 110 converted just to keep the battery charged. Cool thing is, there is a sequence of buttons you push on the fridge to shut it off. Never knew you could do that. They say it is bad to just unplug the fridge. Just trying not to pull a load on the 110, Trying to make all devices happy  |
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Post by johnr on Mar 10, 2021 7:59:01 GMT -5
The battery disconnect switch should not kill all power to the coach. It is meant only to disconnect things that aren't necessary while traveling. Among things that are necessary are landing gear, fridge and brakes. It is wired this way for a reason and I would not recommend putting in a switch to completely disconnect the battery. If you need to do that because your rig will be sitting for a long time, then disconnect the battery terminals manually.
The disconnect switch is also useful when you take it in for service. One time I took mine in and the shop left every single light on in the rig for days, draining the battery pretty completely. I had to sit there with my truck plugged into it for some time before having enough charge to use my landing gear. I don't forget to use my disconnect switch when I take it there.
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Post by termy251 on Mar 10, 2021 9:09:07 GMT -5
Ahhhh, perfect, Thanks for that information, Just wanted to make sure it was wired the way it should be. First time 5th wheeler so I am in learning mode. I will just leave it as is.
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Post by laknox on Mar 10, 2021 10:26:47 GMT -5
Ahhhh, perfect, Thanks for that information, Just wanted to make sure it was wired the way it should be. First time 5th wheeler so I am in learning mode. I will just leave it as is.
The disconnect is also meant to kill parasitic draws; stereo, TV, smoke detector, CO/propane detector, etc. Lyle |
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Post by stvnbell0 on Mar 11, 2021 7:38:49 GMT -5
Well I think a battery disconnect switch should shut off everything. Once I realized what they did with the wiring I installed a marine 2 battery cut off switch. Now I can run both batteries, battery 1, battery 2 or shut everything off.
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Post by lynnmor on Mar 11, 2021 9:14:24 GMT -5
Well I think a battery disconnect switch should shut off everything. Once I realized what they did with the wiring I installed a marine 2 battery cut off switch. Now I can run both batteries, battery 1, battery 2 or shut everything off. I agree, having a switch to make sure that the battery does not draw down is the only reasonable solution. In addition, a switch to quickly kill all power in the event of an electrical issue is a safety measure. |
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Post by johnr on Mar 11, 2021 9:53:10 GMT -5
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. The entire RV industry installs battery disconnects in the same manner because it has safety measures built into the design. If you want to bypass those measures and modify your RV, more power to you.
Personally, I'd rather know that my emergency brakes and crucial systems will work no matter what position that switch is in.
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Post by laknox on Mar 11, 2021 10:07:20 GMT -5
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. The entire RV industry installs battery disconnects in the same manner because it has safety measures built into the design. If you want to bypass those measures and modify your RV, more power to you. Personally, I'd rather know that my emergency brakes and crucial systems will work no matter what position that switch is in. YES!!! Front jacks, slides and e-brakes should =never= be disconnected, IMO. Lyle |
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Post by laknox on Mar 11, 2021 10:09:30 GMT -5
One thing I found out the hard way, is that the batteries will NOT charge if the disconnect is off. This is true for my KZ and was true on my old Komfort. Not fun to get to a boondocker and find that you're already in the yellow on nearly-new batteries when you've been plugged in to shore power for several days. Had to run my truck about an hour a day for the 3 days we were camping.
Lyle
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Post by kenc1325 on Mar 16, 2021 18:05:31 GMT -5
One thing I found out the hard way, is that the batteries will NOT charge if the disconnect is off. This is true for my KZ and was true on my old Komfort. Not fun to get to a boondocker and find that you're already in the yellow on nearly-new batteries when you've been plugged in to shore power for several days. Had to run my truck about an hour a day for the 3 days we were camping. Lyle I am new to this as well just bought a Durango 301RLT it has solar panels on the roof I was told at the dealer ship that the solar panels will charge the batteries even with the disconnect off . Now I am not sure what to believe . I have it in storage right now . Thanks Ken |
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Post by laknox on Mar 17, 2021 14:56:27 GMT -5
One thing I found out the hard way, is that the batteries will NOT charge if the disconnect is off. This is true for my KZ and was true on my old Komfort. Not fun to get to a boondocker and find that you're already in the yellow on nearly-new batteries when you've been plugged in to shore power for several days. Had to run my truck about an hour a day for the 3 days we were camping. Lyle I am new to this as well just bought a Durango 301RLT it has solar panels on the roof I was told at the dealer ship that the solar panels will charge the batteries even with the disconnect off . Now I am not sure what to believe . I have it in storage right now . Thanks Ken Easy to check with your handy-dandy multi-meter. With the disconnect off, check to see if you're seeing > 13v on the battery(ies), assuming you have 12v battery(ies). If so, it's being charged. If you're only seeing 12.6, or less, then they are not being charge. Turn the disconnect on and see if that changes any. It makes total sense that the batteries would charge with the disconnect off, but we're talking RVs here, where things sometimes make about as much sense as a gov't project. Lyle |
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