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Post by amvince on Nov 1, 2020 17:32:23 GMT -5
We are considering purchasing our first Travel Trailer. The top choice right now is a KZ Connect 241RLK. Many don't have th eelectric stabilizer jacks on them and we have been given various reasons why. One was KZ doesn't like them becuase they break often becuase people don't use them correctly. Another is they are only on th efront off the trailer yet it shows front and rear on the KZ website, another saying they are $1,800.00 which was bs so that guy is out. Anyway just looking for some advice and guidance. They offer the Nocrco 5.1 system but only in the Luxury Edition and I can't seem to find anyone at the 3 dealers I have spoken with that can give me a straight answer on that either.
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Post by lynnmor on Nov 1, 2020 18:06:41 GMT -5
They are less effective than the manual ones, IMO a waste of money unless you have a handicap.
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Post by Soleman on Nov 1, 2020 20:00:46 GMT -5
FWIW, I had them on my "other brand trailer" for seven years and never had an issue. (KEEP THEM CLEAN AND LUBED).
They were factory installed (JT Strong Arm brand) front and rear. I guess it depends on the type, style or brand?
They were stabilizers with a locking arm not leveling jacks! All leveling will still have to be done manually.
I found them to be convenient to have and save you a little time setting up and taking down.
I wonder if the scissor type were better? I've never owned a trailer with them.
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Post by laknox on Nov 2, 2020 10:33:37 GMT -5
Went camping with a friend years ago. He had them on his rig and they have a limiter or clutch on them so you can't really "snug" them down like you can manual jacks. I had scissor jacks on my old Komfort and there was a noticeable difference between his and mine, as I cinched mine down pretty tight. Also, it helps if you use lots of cribbing under them so they're "shorter".
Lyle
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Post by Edd505 on Nov 2, 2020 21:51:21 GMT -5
Went camping with a friend years ago. He had them on his rig and they have a limiter or clutch on them so you can't really "snug" them down like you can manual jacks. I had scissor jacks on my old Komfort and there was a noticeable difference between his and mine, as I cinched mine down pretty tight. Also, it helps if you use lots of cribbing under them so they're "shorter". Lyle Shorter is the secret on every type, manual, electric, or hydraulic. |
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Post by Chuck on Nov 8, 2020 20:55:56 GMT -5
amvince You may have to travel a distance to get what you want, the dealer is the most important part of buying the trailer other than the trailer it's self... I have not seen the jacks your talking, but $1800 seems a little steep for adding electric jacks...
We have the old scissor jacks on are old 5th wheel, hated them even though I used a power ratchet/ drill to rise an lower them ... What I see most of people who own trailers with scissor jacks is they think tightening them to the tenth degree is good an bend them  , they are stabilizers not levelers 
Safe Travels 
Chuck
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Post by amvince on Nov 18, 2020 20:32:43 GMT -5
Thanks for your help. They are about 650 full price for the electric stabilizers.
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Post by lynnmor on Nov 19, 2020 5:03:24 GMT -5
Thanks for your help. They are about 650 full price for the electric stabilizers. If you camp 4 times per year and keep the trailer for 10 years, that would be $16 per leveling. If you finance that $650, it would be much more. If you use the manual jacks, you would get a little bit of exercise and have about $1300 in 10 years if invested well. |
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Post by midlotexan on Nov 19, 2020 21:01:42 GMT -5
Just take your cordless drill driver, with a jack bolt driver. Fast and easy, just remember when it hits the ground the drill with try and twist your arm off.
Kirt
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Post by amvince on Nov 22, 2020 13:33:38 GMT -5
Thanks for your help. They are about 650 full price for the electric stabilizers. If you camp 4 times per year and keep the trailer for 10 years, that would be $16 per leveling. If you finance that $650, it would be much more. If you use the manual jacks, you would get a little bit of exercise and have about $1300 in 10 years if invested well. Agreeded unless you are finding that the one with the stabilizer jacks is being sold to you for $3,800.00 dollars less than the closest dealer wants for the one without them, the next closest which is about 2 hours away is $1,800.00 more and is about a 2 hour 10 min drive. I guess pricing tells me I want the electric ones. |
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Post by Edd505 on Nov 23, 2020 19:48:46 GMT -5
If you camp 4 times per year and keep the trailer for 10 years, that would be $16 per leveling. If you finance that $650, it would be much more. If you use the manual jacks, you would get a little bit of exercise and have about $1300 in 10 years if invested well. Agreeded unless you are finding that the one with the stabilizer jacks is being sold to you for $3,800.00 dollars less than the closest dealer wants for the one without them, the next closest which is about 2 hours away is $1,800.00 more and is about a 2 hour 10 min drive. I guess pricing tells me I want the electric ones. Simple best price & more equipment, you get a longer first tow. Win-Win. |
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Post by Chris RV Living on Nov 29, 2020 15:34:24 GMT -5
We have the electric on ours and I like them. You could carry an electric drill and have the proper socket for it and save the money. Our current camping style has us moving around a lot, so the convenience is worth it. If we were staying 1-2 weeks per location, I would probably save the money and use the electric drill method. Even with electric if they fail, they have a "nut" you can turn to bring them up or down. Not sure if that would allow you to apply more force to the "stabilzer" like Laknox mentioned. you really aren't supposed to "lift" the trailer with the stabilizer jacks. But they do need to be "tight" or lifting enough to stop more of the wobling. We also use X-Chocks between the wheels which also stabilizes a lot.
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Post by laknox on Nov 30, 2020 11:16:12 GMT -5
My old Komfort had manual scissor stabilizers and I really can't see it taking much =less= time if I'd have had electrics. Since we boondock a lot, I'd still have to stack a foot, or more, of blocks under each one, which is what took the most time. The actual cranking only took 15 seconds. Now, my 4-point auto-level is DA BOMB! :-) I certainly won't have another rig without it. :-)
Lyle
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Post by Edd505 on Nov 30, 2020 21:44:46 GMT -5
My 1st 5W had manuals and I just used a socket & ratchet, I'm retired and had plenty of time. New 5W has auto level, likely would not have ordered but the system was on it and I got a deal I cold not say no to. Now after using it 4 years I'd not buy an RV w/o even though I had an issue took some time to figure out.
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Post by kbrady on Dec 1, 2020 12:01:46 GMT -5
My trailer came with them, my last trailer didn't. I don't think they're worth the money. I used the drill and socket on the old trailer but quit using that as it was more trouble to get the drill and socket out. It was just as quick to use the crank handle that came with the trailer.
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Post by Chuck on Dec 11, 2020 19:02:09 GMT -5
My 1st 5W had manuals and I just used a socket & ratchet, I'm retired and had plenty of time. New 5W has auto level, likely would not have ordered but the system was on it and I got a deal I cold not say no to. Now after using it 4 years I'd not buy an RV w/o even though I had an issue took some time to figure out. I'm with you Edd, I to lazy now an would never go back to the manuals and using a socket & ratchet, I push a button an have a adult beverage an watch the trailer do it's thing
Safe Travels my friend
Chuck
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Post by jfspry58 on Dec 15, 2020 14:42:47 GMT -5
One more vote for auto leveling. Previous trailers didn't have it and I too didn't think it was that big of a deal. Now that I have them, wouldn't buy another trailer without. I sweat a whole lot less watching the trailer level itself! Good luck and safe travels!
Jay
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Post by idmt on Jan 16, 2021 13:24:46 GMT -5
Just invest in a Battery Drill / Driver -- and do the manual ones !!!
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Post by laknox on Jan 18, 2021 11:05:41 GMT -5
Just invest in a Battery Drill / Driver -- and do the manual ones !!! Always took me more time to get out the blocks and stack them under the jacks than to crank them down. :-) Lyle |
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Post by Edd505 on Jan 20, 2021 20:09:12 GMT -5
I hated putting down blocks, check level, add 2 recheck level etc. PITA. Now I set a stack under each leg, push a button and stand back and watch. I know when the dance is over the RV is level, one and done.
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