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Post by mdcamper on Jun 7, 2020 10:33:13 GMT -5
Thinking of upgrading from our Titan XD with the Reese goosebox to a Chevy 3500 SRW with the same goosebox.
Problem is the Titan XD tows almost level. It squats about 2". The new truck may not squat nearly as much and it's about 2" or so higher from the get go (Bed height to the ground) Titan XD 37 1/2 - Chevy 3500 39 1/2"
Do I try to lift the 5th wheel? Ir so how to go about this the easiest and safest way?
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Post by ronc on Jun 7, 2020 16:08:06 GMT -5
Do you know your pin weight when loaded to travel? I ask, because I had to upgrade from an F350 SRW truck to a dually ... I was 900 lbs overweight on the rear axle.
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Post by Edd505 on Jun 7, 2020 19:11:44 GMT -5
Has to be adjustment on the goose box just like the standard pin box 5W hitch combo.
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Post by mdcamper on Jun 7, 2020 19:32:22 GMT -5
I can adjust on the Goosebox but then I lose bed rail to camper height. We are at 7" clearance now. Any less is asking for trouble.
Our current CAT weighed pin weight is 1560lbs The 3500 will give us a ton more payload (from 2030lbs up to 3780lbs)
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Post by mdcamper on Jun 7, 2020 19:33:12 GMT -5
Run in to another possible issue. Getting a 1 ton insured with our insurance co. They want to rate it commercial cause of the GVWR being over 10k.
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Post by Edd505 on Jun 7, 2020 20:19:23 GMT -5
Not sure where you live or who you insure through but State Farm covers everything I have, I would check another insurance company. Possible to change state of residence? (full timers)
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Post by mdcamper on Jun 7, 2020 21:46:23 GMT -5
We have State Farm in Maryland. I'm calling tomorrow to get the low down on if we are required to pay commercial rates.
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Post by mdcamper on Jun 8, 2020 9:26:26 GMT -5
We are good to go on the insurance end. Not commercial. Just need to figure out how to tow as level as possible.
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Post by ronc on Jun 8, 2020 10:35:19 GMT -5
I can adjust on the Goosebox but then I lose bed rail to camper height. We are at 7" clearance now. Any less is asking for trouble. Our current CAT weighed pin weight is 1560lbs The 3500 will give us a ton more payload (from 2030lbs up to 3780lbs) That pin weight should be fine for a SRW one ton. My pin is 3,900 lbs, so I needed a dually. Wish I could get away with a SRW truck ... car washes would be easier😎 |
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Post by Edd505 on Jun 8, 2020 15:22:00 GMT -5
I can adjust on the Goosebox but then I lose bed rail to camper height. We are at 7" clearance now. Any less is asking for trouble. Our current CAT weighed pin weight is 1560lbs The 3500 will give us a ton more payload (from 2030lbs up to 3780lbs) I think you will find the recommended clearance is 5". Here is from eTailer: if you take a look at the linked diagram you can see the minimum recommended clearance distances between truck and trailer for 5th wheel towing. It is recommended to have at least 5-inches from the top of the bed rails to the bottom of the trailer overhang. |
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Post by mdcamper on Jun 8, 2020 20:01:10 GMT -5
I can adjust on the Goosebox but then I lose bed rail to camper height. We are at 7" clearance now. Any less is asking for trouble. Our current CAT weighed pin weight is 1560lbs The 3500 will give us a ton more payload (from 2030lbs up to 3780lbs) I think you will find the recommended clearance is 5". Here is from eTailer: if you take a look at the linked diagram you can see the minimum recommended clearance distances between truck and trailer for 5th wheel towing. It is recommended to have at least 5-inches from the top of the bed rails to the bottom of the trailer overhang.
Reese Goosebox recommends 7" But we could live with 5 1/2 to 6 1/2" I suppose. |
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Post by Edd505 on Jun 8, 2020 22:10:37 GMT -5
Been running 5" almost 4 years. Had to back out of one hole that would eat a VW in a little out of the way truck stop. Backed up until I found a spot I could get back on the road w/o going through a big hole. I knew it was going to be close so I watched close, discretion being the better part of valor, I quite before doing any damage.
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Post by razor on Nov 6, 2020 11:43:37 GMT -5
Do you know your pin weight when loaded to travel? I ask, because I had to upgrade from an F350 SRW truck to a dually ... I was 900 lbs overweight on the rear axle. Wise move. I had to make the same upgrade. I see a lot of SRW one tons, and even worse, 3/4 ton trucks towing 5’ers that are most likely (and significantly) overweight at the pin. It can work out ok until the driver has to make an evasive maneuver or just experiences a blowout. |
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Post by laknox on Nov 9, 2020 11:30:53 GMT -5
I know this is water under the bridge, but most trucks in the last 5-6 years have spacer blocks that can be removed to lower your truck. What I plan on doing whenever I replace my '02 D'max. I =need= that 7-8" clearance I have as we boondock more often than not.
Lyle
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Post by ronc on Nov 9, 2020 18:26:23 GMT -5
Word of mouth campfire wisdom suggests 7” ... which I have. With 5”, just be very careful when crossing uneven ground. I think you will find the recommended clearance is 5". Here is from eTailer: if you take a look at the linked diagram you can see the minimum recommended clearance distances between truck and trailer for 5th wheel towing. It is recommended to have at least 5-inches from the top of the bed rails to the bottom of the trailer overhang.
Reese Goosebox recommends 7" But we could live with 5 1/2 to 6 1/2" I suppose. |
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Post by Edd505 on Nov 24, 2020 16:54:11 GMT -5
We have State Farm in Maryland. I'm calling tomorrow to get the low down on if we are required to pay commercial rates. Just saw this an thought of you: link |
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Post by ronc on Nov 24, 2020 19:39:05 GMT -5
We have State Farm in Maryland. I'm calling tomorrow to get the low down on if we are required to pay commercial rates. Just saw this an thought of you: linkInteresting. A gooseneck hitch would free up the bed for sure. I’m old school and tend to lean on products with a proven track record. As you know, I am a big believer in air ride hitches. An air ride pin box is better than nothing, but a full on air ride hitch is the ticket. I see the nose of my rig gently bobbing up and down as our great roads try to beat our rigs to death. Every little bit of softening has to help. The down side to my “Trailer Saver” air ride hitch is $$. They are probably x2 the price of a quality rigid hitch. |
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Post by Edd505 on Nov 24, 2020 21:57:11 GMT -5
Just saw this an thought of you: linkInteresting. A gooseneck hitch would free up the bed for sure. I’m old school and tend to lean on products with a proven track record. As you know, I am a big believer in air ride hitches. An air ride pin box is better than nothing, but a full on air ride hitch is the ticket. I see the nose of my rig gently bobbing up and down as our great roads try to beat our rigs to death. Every little bit of softening has to help. The down side to my “Trailer Saver” air ride hitch is $$. They are probably x2 the price of a quality rigid hitch. The smallest TS 1 is rated 14K with 2500 pin but needs rails, the one for the puck systems 28,000 lb. 5,000 lb. way more than than I need. The TS-1 would be find if I had more weight, I know your 5W is a lot heavier than mine. |
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Post by ronc on Nov 26, 2020 15:36:26 GMT -5
Interesting. A gooseneck hitch would free up the bed for sure. I’m old school and tend to lean on products with a proven track record. As you know, I am a big believer in air ride hitches. An air ride pin box is better than nothing, but a full on air ride hitch is the ticket. I see the nose of my rig gently bobbing up and down as our great roads try to beat our rigs to death. Every little bit of softening has to help. The down side to my “Trailer Saver” air ride hitch is $$. They are probably x2 the price of a quality rigid hitch. The smallest TS 1 is rated 14K with 2500 pin but needs rails, the one for the puck systems 28,000 lb. 5,000 lb. way more than than I need. The TS-1 would be find if I had more weight, I know your 5W is a lot heavier than mine. Yeah, my pin is 3,700 lbs. |
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