baranski37
Weekender RV’er
Princeton, TX
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Post by baranski37 on Mar 13, 2019 20:59:29 GMT -5
We had a storm front come through DFW about 5:00 am. The trailer was parked north to south and storm cane from west. I would estimate 65-75 mph wind gust. One travel trailer was lifted off leveling blocks. With all that said I’m curious what others do for severe shelter while full timing.
We are currently in Princeton TX near lake Lavon so I looked online at public shelters and found that there weren’t any. I thought in the past that local elementary schools opened as shelters but I was wrong. For us the closest place is a 24 hr Walmart about 5 miles away. Growing up in Oklahoma and Texas I have been through many severe storms, but always had a S&B house some with shelters. Any suggestions from those that have been fulltiming for awhile. Regards Ron
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Post by ronc on Mar 14, 2019 15:08:26 GMT -5
Usually the RV park has a designated shelter. What will help you is to fill your fresh water tank ... that puts (gallons X 8) lbs of weight down low where it does the most good. Being heavy is a help (not a perfect defense but a help) in winds. We've been thru a few real rock and rollers and so far we've been fortunate.
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Post by Edd505 on Mar 14, 2019 21:21:13 GMT -5
I was in 65mph yesterday and had no issues but wind were not at 90 degrees. I drove an 18 wheeler a while back, by hitching and parking the TV at a 90 degree angle, making an L, it helps stabilize.
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Post by laknox on Mar 15, 2019 10:19:18 GMT -5
Usually the RV park has a designated shelter. What will help you is to fill your fresh water tank ... that puts (gallons X 8) lbs of weight down low where it does the most good. Being heavy is a help (not a perfect defense but a help) in winds. We've been thru a few real rock and rollers and so far we've been fortunate. Could also fill up the black and grey tanks for even more ballast. Pull in the slides to help "streamline" things a bit; just less angles for the wind to catch. Lyle |
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Post by ronc on Mar 18, 2019 17:21:55 GMT -5
Usually the RV park has a designated shelter. What will help you is to fill your fresh water tank ... that puts (gallons X 8) lbs of weight down low where it does the most good. Being heavy is a help (not a perfect defense but a help) in winds. We've been thru a few real rock and rollers and so far we've been fortunate. Could also fill up the black and grey tanks for even more ballast. Pull in the slides to help "streamline" things a bit; just less angles for the wind to catch. Lyle The "slides in, slides out" is a debate I've seen before. We're slide out people, but that doesn't make me right. I'm a pilot and I understand "lift" ... it's the reason that ice on wings causes airplanes to stop generating lift. The "dirtier" you can make a surface, the less lift it can generate ... for me slides out presents a "dirtier" surface to wind so less lift. The other argument says the less surface area you present to wind, the less affect it will have. Both are correct in their own way. The first thing that has to happen to tip over a trailer is it "lifts" and then get turned over. Less lift is better ... IMO. |
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Post by johnr on Mar 19, 2019 6:50:30 GMT -5
I know it's a bit of sci-fi, but what if trailers were equipped with some sort of louver system. Open and close so that in high wind, the trailer could generate its own down force. Now that would be cool!
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Post by laknox on Mar 19, 2019 10:27:56 GMT -5
Could also fill up the black and grey tanks for even more ballast. Pull in the slides to help "streamline" things a bit; just less angles for the wind to catch. Lyle The "slides in, slides out" is a debate I've seen before. We're slide out people, but that doesn't make me right. I'm a pilot and I understand "lift" ... it's the reason that ice on wings causes airplanes to stop generating lift. The "dirtier" you can make a surface, the less lift it can generate ... for me slides out presents a "dirtier" surface to wind so less lift. The other argument says the less surface area you present to wind, the less affect it will have. Both are correct in their own way. The first thing that has to happen to tip over a trailer is it "lifts" and then get turned over. Less lift is better ... IMO. Well, since lift is caused by the pressure differential of less on top and more on bottom (Bernoulli Principle), =anything= that causes pressure on the bottom is, in effect, producing lift. :-) You trap air under a slide(s), then you're creating a higher pressure zone which can tend to lift that side. FWIW, I'm the son of a pilot and brother of an airline captain, so I do know a bit about planes. :-) You are right, though, a "dirty" object just won't produce as much lift...usually. Just depends on the "dirt". Ultimate "dirty" plane would have to be the shuttle carrier. The "dirt" (shuttle) did produce one helluva lot of lift, but the drag, now... :-) Lyle |
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Post by laknox on Mar 19, 2019 10:37:23 GMT -5
I know it's a bit of sci-fi, but what if trailers were equipped with some sort of louver system. Open and close so that in high wind, the trailer could generate its own down force. Now that would be cool! Take it to the next level. How about some sort of cover for the roof? How much drag does all that stuff sticking out of the roof produce? Belly covering does a =lot= for economy by reducing drag. Put fairings on the axles to make them more aero. :-) The high-end rigs that have rounded rear caps =definitely= have less turbulence, so are a bit more economic. (If they were longer and tapered more, they'd be even better, but way impractical.) Hard skirting would help aerodynamically, just like on semis, but they =would= help in high winds, too. By forcing the wind around the trailer, you create a low pressure zone underneath so the higher pressure above produces downforce. Same priniciple as an air dam and skirts on a NASCAR car; force the air to go around and you create downforce. Open wheel cars OTOH, =channel= air underneath and the bottoms are wing-shaped, but pull =down=. Years ago, an Indy car produced enough downforce at 100 mph, let alone 200, that it would allow the car to drive upside down without falling. More downforce than the car weighed! :-) Lyle |
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Post by Edd505 on Mar 19, 2019 20:34:35 GMT -5
Thought I belonged to an RV board not an airplane forum.
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Post by laknox on Mar 20, 2019 10:06:43 GMT -5
Thought I belonged to an RV board not an airplane forum. Aerodynamics is aerodynamics, whether you're talking airplanes, RVs or bricks; oops, that's the same as an RV.  Lyle |
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Post by Edd505 on Mar 21, 2019 12:04:35 GMT -5
Aerodynamics is aerodynamics, whether you're talking airplanes, RVs or bricks; oops, that's the same as an RV. Lyle So I can put some wheels on a couple brick I have laying around and have a new RV?
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Post by laknox on Mar 22, 2019 10:45:27 GMT -5
Aerodynamics is aerodynamics, whether you're talking airplanes, RVs or bricks; oops, that's the same as an RV. Lyle So I can put some wheels on a couple brick I have laying around and have a new RV?
Aerodynamically speaking... Lyle |
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Post by ronc on Apr 9, 2019 15:04:13 GMT -5
Those of us in the Southwest are going to get to test these theories. Some places are going to see 70 MPH gusts. We're in Lajitas, TX (bottom of the Big Bend NP) and we're in a valley and our western exposure is a mountain ... so we'll get shelter from that, but those on flat land need to be careful.
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Post by Edd505 on Apr 11, 2019 19:33:47 GMT -5
ronc; San Augustin Pass off SR70 just west of El Paso by White Sands had 102mph gust
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Post by Edd505 on Apr 11, 2019 19:35:49 GMT -5
double post
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Post by mkpaint on Apr 11, 2019 19:36:54 GMT -5
102🙊😭💨
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Post by ronc on Apr 12, 2019 20:12:56 GMT -5
Wow!!
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Post by laknox on Apr 15, 2019 10:14:17 GMT -5
ronc; San Augustin Pass off SR70 just west of El Paso by White Sands had 102mph gust I was in Boulder CO back in '80 or '81 when a wind came down Boulder Canyon and just smoked the town. The NCAR facility at the mouth of the canyon recorded something like 12 gusts > 120 with a peak at 146. Pretty well destroyed the airport and damage all around town. GF's bedroom was on the 2nd floor and we ended up heading downstairs as we were afraid the windows were going to blow in on us. You could feel the whole building shaking. Lyle |
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Post by Chuck on Apr 19, 2019 11:36:33 GMT -5
Texas is not the only place you get strong winds, Nebraska, Wyoming as known for strong winds all year long  There nothing like driving thought Wyoming with a 30 to 35mph side wind all day long in a semi or 5th or TT Ugh !! As well out here in Washington State we get those strong winds off the ocean in the winter, we live about 40 miles off the Pacific ocean the way the crow fly's ... We also live between to small mountain ranges an a number of times the wind comes down between those mountain ranges at 40Mph to 50Mph with gusts up to 60Mph during the winter ... Since there is no large towns an only farm land between the ocean an us there's nothing to cut the wind so we get hammered every so often with wind an rain of course ... Safe Travels Chuck |
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