Durango Gold G366FBT Experience and Actual Loaded Weights?

JMHO dantexan,

If you think that the Grand Design and VanLeigh are of a higher quality you really need to take another look.  REALLY spend some time in one. They are both a "house of cards".

You will not find a more solid built coach than a Durango. Forget about 2nd and 3rd party vendor products, they all use basically the same stuff. Look at how they are put together and how they utilize space and then what they charge.

An upstart company VanLeigh has the backing of Tiffin but their expertise in Class A does not carryover into 5th wheels. To give you a couple of examples their beds are so high you need a trapeze to swing yourself into it, and I don't know who applies the stain to their "high end wood" but Ray Charles could do a better job plus they have very little usable storage. Yes they do use multiplex wiring systems but their lack of attention to details their weight and their price for what you actually get take them out of the ball park.

Grand Design is another relatively new company and by the numbers of them that you see you could assume that they are doing well and making a fine product but a slick marketing campaign and lots of interior bling could not overcome the quality control issues they have and 3 years ago filed to restructure the company and it was finally sold to Winnebago in 2016. But from what I have seen at the RV shows they have not learned their lesson. I have seen countless Reflection and Solitude 5th wheels that can not make it through a 4 day RV show without starting to show signs of poor quality control IE falling apart. Trim coming off, cabinet door falling off and on and on. These are the same people that started Keystone and made Montana #1. They thought they could do it again and both marques have fallen on hard times for the same reasons.

KZ has been in business for 46 years and is no stranger to super high end 5th wheels. they manufactured a unit called an Escalade from about 2004-12. The average selling price was about $150,000. The things where top of the line everything and built to match, but KZ figured out that is was better to build a solid unit and keep it durable, somewhat modest and give you what you actually need in a fulltime unit plus try to keep the price down. One of the ways they accomplish this is to somewhat limit production, they only produce about 700 a year. Are they perfect, no, you will still have problems and if you are looking for the perfect 5th wheel good luck.

dantexas, congrates on the purchase of the Durango.

Don't want to start a big controversy but you may want to rethink the goosebox hitch, it WILL void the Lippert frame warranty. If someone is telling you something different get it in writing. Here is the Lippert warranty, I posted this about 6 months ago in another thread

Oct 8, 2017 at 12:13am

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Post by jetzen on Oct 8, 2017 at 12:13am


Excerpt from Lippert 1year limited warranty;




This Limited Warranty does not cover abuse, misuse or neglect which includes (without limitation) damages caused
by: improper usage, overloading, accidents, unreasonable use, improper loading, incorrect weight bias loading,
improper wheel nut torque, improper operation, improper repair, improper maintenance, improper connection to towing
unit, normal wear and tear, driving at excessively high speeds while towing or attempted repair by anyone other than
an authorized representative of LIPPERT COMPONENTS. This Limited Warranty does not cover chemical damage
caused by acids, fuel, oil or other chemicals. Rust formation is not covered. This warranty does not cover any Product
which is found to have been modified or altered in any way, including, but not limited to, installation of any and all aftermarket
hauling attachments such as gooseneck adapters, pinbox extensions, tow hitches, load bearing devices, or
other attachments to the Product. LIPPERT COMPONENTS will not be liable for commitments or agreements made
by any of its employees, agents, or dealers not in accordance with this warranty. The use of this unit as part of a rental
fleet, or use for a commercial purpose, voids the warranty




Just an FYI about the warranty.




Many, many RVers have made the switch to the MORryde IS Suspension and pin box without incident, but if it is done within the warranty period it will void the chassis warranty. Why make it hard on yourself to receive warranty service if needed, it is already difficult enough.


2018 KZ Durango Gold 384RLT / 2013 Ram 2500 Crew 4x4 LB



Read more: kzfamilyforum.com/thread/1430/hitch#ixzz5A6hVpHtU

Mar 18, 2018 10:09:05 GMT -5 dantexas said:

Hi Jetzen.  Actually, Lippert does warranty their frame with the Reese Goosebox, but no other goose neck hitches or systems.  They even sell the Goosebox on their website.  Here is a link where they sell it, and state that it is endorsed by LCI on their frame systems:  www.lci1.com/goose-box.  What I wasn't sure of is which frame the G366FBT uses, whether it's Lippert, etc.  The dealer told me the Goosebox would be a match, and they are putting the 20K version on it.

tried your link several times and it keeps coming up 404 page not found.

Like I stated earlier don't want to cause a controversy, but even at the rally last summer the Lippert reps stressed that warranty would be voided. Do as you wish and good luck.