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Post by bob52 on Feb 19, 2018 20:26:00 GMT -5
Hi, do the 2018 models also have a manual rocker switch for the slides and awnings rather than using the OneControl tablet?
We are looking at the 355RLT.
Thanks
Bob
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Post by Chuck on Feb 20, 2018 12:27:34 GMT -5
If I understand your question the Durango Gold line do not have any rocker switches to open an close slides
or awnings ...
The Durango Gold models have in some case's not all have the LCI control panel inside an out side in the storage
area along with a small panel in the battery storage area fore hooking an unhooking your trailer.
Others just have a control panel on the inside wall an a small one in the battery box again to hook an unhook
your trailer... You can either use the One touch Control tablet to hook or unhook as well an do not need to
use the control panel in the battery box if you do not want to so it gives you an options ....
They also have WIFI so you can open an close your slides, awnings etc from a app on your phone ...An op had a
problem with his panels not working, but his app worked an thus he could operate the complete system from
his phone without any problems ...
However there is an over-ride built into the system so if you loose power you can close your slides, as well there is a
way that you can over-ride your leveling jacks an landing gear again if you loose the hydraulic system, so there is
safe guards built in to the systems ...
Is it a PITA to do either, yes, if you look at other trail MFG all that have LCI systems in them operate the same way,
so no matter what brand you go with using the LCI systems in an emergency you have to do the same thing ...
Safe Travels
Chuck
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Post by bob52 on Feb 20, 2018 15:42:04 GMT -5
Hey Chuck, it seems there may be some on the monitor panel but not sure. They do have slide controls with the lippert software (MYRV) and the Lippert App, but just wanted to know if there were some actual switch's. Someone stated they may have them where the monitor panel is located. which is where the MYRV tablet is located. It's really frustrating because it is so difficult to find pictures of system components with the durango gold. Even their owners manual does not show this. The manual does show the LCC (Liquid Control Center), but their manual is so limiting. Nothing is tutorial based whatsoever.
Bob
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Post by Chuck on Feb 20, 2018 19:08:58 GMT -5
Bob Yes there are rocker switches for your black water, fresh water tank, porch light, general lights thought out the trailer, awnings, over head fan water heater on gas an electric etc .... An looking on the internet as you say there may be some for the Slides, I did find one picture with rocker switches for the slides but can't remember if it was the 355 or not  Safe Travels Chuck |
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Post by jetzen on Feb 20, 2018 20:01:24 GMT -5
Hi, do the 2018 models also have a manual rocker switch for the slides and awnings rather than using the OneControl tablet? We are looking at the 355RLT. Thanks Bob On your gold you have several ways to control your slides and awnings.
You can download the one control app for your smart phone and have a redundant set of controls like is on the interior tablet.
Also on your 355RLT your main slides are hydraulic and your bedroom slide is electric. In your battery compartment along with your battery bank and 12v disconnect switch you "should" find the hydraulic slide selector valves and a rocker switch for the hydraulic slides. The key word here is "should". As with everything else sometimes things get changed just because they can and not necessarily an improvement but a cost savings.
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Post by capemayal on Feb 21, 2018 11:32:06 GMT -5
What do I not like with the myrv system is that there are no separate controls for the kitchen and each bedroom slide. Its either all 3 or nothing. That's a PITA.
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Post by bob52 on Feb 21, 2018 11:57:15 GMT -5
Thank you Chuck and jetzen!
As far as the selector valves, yes there are 2 of them on this 6 point leveling system. Not sure what jacks each of the 2 knobs control though,but will do some reading. As far as your "should" expression, I am in tune LOL My manual contains info on the 1500 as well. The 2500 and the Gold are close if not exact but I could be wrong. So there is this mixture of parts and processes and presented in a very confusing manner. The factory needs to do a better job with their manuals in general. When you mix models and systems it just adds another level of confusion. I have a 2016 Chevy 2500HD Diesel and let me tell you the manual was written by an incredible team. It is clear and concise to say the least, + you get updates. So, I think the RV industry needs to do much better. In the case of what should be a simple process, the black tank drain and flush is again generic IMO in the owners manual. It lack clarity, it brings up a ton of questions. Some of the folks who buy these RV's may not even know how to check tire pressure let alone try to understand a complicated system that in addition it's instructions are poorly written. A simple format is needed so that the user can complete a task and understand the concept. Do so by providing pictures that belong to the same RV that you own, not some generic valve or switch that is on another model. I had to download the lippert 3.0 control panel manual. Why should I have to do that? They provided me the info on the refrigerator from the manufacturer. C'mon!
I am retired Electrical Contractor and I have had to document so many systems in my career, and trust me, if you do a shi##y job, you will find out. So I am just a little disappointed in the document/manual package received from the dealer as it is a little shy of clarity and it reads sometimes like it was translated from a Chinese product. Please I have nothing against the Chinese. I also believe the k-z did a good job during the design and construction, but you just cannot stop there. After watching tons of video's, I found out I am not alone, as there are hundreds of videos concerning "The lack of Training and Understanding of a System", I have a little bit of background that will help me in certain situations, but I still need clarity for those systems that I am not familiar with. I know I will learn as I go, as I read articles, I belong to forums, and I don't mind asking questions. But the lack of good documentation and training makes me think it's all done that way on purpose, so you can take it back to the dealer from either a faulty part or..........you broke it because you just did not understand the process. Yep, I am getting older and I know I sometimes need repetition because I forget, but I have learned to read documentation more than one time. Not having good documentation only opens the door for problems, and sometimes big ones. I don't need these avoidable types of problems, that is why I am getting the hell out of Dodge!
OK, I am done. Had to get this off my chest. Now I am ready to call k-z and see if I can get them to provide a complete up to date informative owners manual. (-:
Bob
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Post by Chuck on Feb 23, 2018 12:01:21 GMT -5
Thank you Chuck and jetzen! As far as the selector valves, yes there are 2 of them on this 6 point leveling system. Not sure what jacks each of the 2 knobs control though,but will do some reading. As far as your "should" expression, I am in tune LOL My manual contains info on the 1500 as well. The 2500 and the Gold are close if not exact but I could be wrong. So there is this mixture of parts and processes and presented in a very confusing manner. The factory needs to do a better job with their manuals in general. When you mix models and systems it just adds another level of confusion. I have a 2016 Chevy 2500HD Diesel and let me tell you the manual was written by an incredible team. It is clear and concise to say the least, + you get updates. So, I think the RV industry needs to do much better. In the case of what should be a simple process, the black tank drain and flush is again generic IMO in the owners manual. It lack clarity, it brings up a ton of questions. Some of the folks who buy these RV's may not even know how to check tire pressure let alone try to understand a complicated system that in addition it's instructions are poorly written. A simple format is needed so that the user can complete a task and understand the concept. Do so by providing pictures that belong to the same RV that you own, not some generic valve or switch that is on another model. I had to download the lippert 3.0 control panel manual. Why should I have to do that? They provided me the info on the refrigerator from the manufacturer. C'mon! I am retired Electrical Contractor and I have had to document so many systems in my career, and trust me, if you do a shi##y job, you will find out. So I am just a little disappointed in the document/manual package received from the dealer as it is a little shy of clarity and it reads sometimes like it was translated from a Chinese product. Please I have nothing against the Chinese. I also believe the k-z did a good job during the design and construction, but you just cannot stop there. After watching tons of video's, I found out I am not alone, as there are hundreds of videos concerning "The lack of Training and Understanding of a System", I have a little bit of background that will help me in certain situations, but I still need clarity for those systems that I am not familiar with. I know I will learn as I go, as I read articles, I belong to forums, and I don't mind asking questions. But the lack of good documentation and training makes me think it's all done that way on purpose, so you can take it back to the dealer from either a faulty part or..........you broke it because you just did not understand the process. Yep, I am getting older and I know I sometimes need repetition because I forget, but I have learned to read documentation more than one time. Not having good documentation only opens the door for problems, and sometimes big ones. I don't need these avoidable types of problems, that is why I am getting the hell out of Dodge! OK, I am done. Had to get this off my chest. Now I am ready to call k-z and see if I can get them to provide a complete up to date informative owners manual. (-: Bob Bob The two 2 knobs control the slides, you can close them to prevent a slide opening if needed  when doing your PDI the Tech should have shown you this ... All manufacturers use general manuals (cover all) for their trailers of likeness, thus cuts cost, is this right, not really but true  As far as calling Kz an getting a manual directed to your trailer I have to say good luck because there is none ... While at the factory we saw how they were building different models 2500, in the dozen trailers being built there was differences in each model so it's almost an I say almost impractical to have a manual directed at each model ... I also have to blame some but not all dealers for not training their techs to do a very good PDI an show new buyers all the in's an out's of the trailer they are buying ... As I sated in the PDI list in another folder on this form, take some blue tape to label things, take pictures, take notes, ask questions, go over things a number of times .... I'm not saying this is on the owner, the tech an NOT A SALESMAN should advise you to do so an the dealer owner should demand that they do such, do they heck no, most want to get your money an get you off the lot ... As I have stated before you should have to read a radio repair or operators manual now days, you almost have to be a mind reader to figure out what they are saying, so the RV industry is not the only ones that do this ... Lastly this one reason for these forms an almost every manufacturer has them, you can go to the Montana, Coachmen, Forest River forms an a number of motor coach sites a read the same thing "HOW DO YOU DO ETC" I also have to say if you have the ability an the time an can afford such going to the Kz rally near the factory is an extra bonus to help you understand your unit, there you can ask questions, get answers an see why things are done as well as make comments to improve the product .... Safe Travels Chuck |
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Post by bob52 on Mar 8, 2018 19:24:54 GMT -5
Thanks Chuck, I do appreciate your time and input. Nice talking with you. Safe Travels to you as well.
Regards
Bob
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Post by Chuck on Mar 9, 2018 14:23:11 GMT -5
What do I not like with the myrv system is that there are no separate controls for the kitchen and each bedroom slide. Its either all 3 or nothing. That's a PITA. capemaya At least in our G384RLT an I believe in most of the Durango Gold from what I have seen there are two valves in the battery box, one controls the main slides an one controls the bedroom slide, thus you can open one without the other ... In some of the other Durango Golds an Venom's there are three valves because of more slides, thus they work the same way, close the valve an one slide or another will not open .. I can't answer to the Sportsman TT or 5th wheel line only 300 an 2500 series of Durango Golds Safe Travels Chuck |
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Post by Chuck on Mar 9, 2018 14:36:24 GMT -5
Thanks Chuck, I do appreciate your time and input. Nice talking with you. Safe Travels to you as well. Regards Bob Not a problem Bob, all of us here at one time or another as i'm sure you have read have ask the question "WHAT IS THIS FOR" lol In our 2006 Coachmen Chappy the manual not only covered the 5th wheels but the TT as well, it was 8 inches thick an I believe it covered every stove, TV, converter, fresh water, gray an black tank valves ever made Ugh !!! Was a night mare to read an only had hints to what things were, if you go over on the Forest River Form you can see the same questions over there about all their brands as what is being ask here, even on hte Montana form as well .... I believe if someone had the time, they could sort thought this form an write a book on or about the operation of almost every trailer made by Kz do to the remarks an questions presented here ... Safe Travels Chuck |
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Post by capemayal on Mar 9, 2018 14:47:41 GMT -5
What do I not like with the myrv system is that there are no separate controls for the kitchen and each bedroom slide. Its either all 3 or nothing. That's a PITA. capemaya At least in our G384RLT an I believe in most of the Durango Gold from what I have seen there are two valves in the battery box, one controls the main slides an one controls the bedroom slide, thus you can open one without the other ... In some of the other Durango Golds an Venom's there are three valves because of more slides, thus they work the same way, close the valve an one slide or another will not open .. I can't answer to the Sportsman TT or 5th wheel line only 300 an 2500 series of Durango Golds Safe Travels Chuck You're right on the valves - we have 3 also. But, there's 2 valves for the 2 living room slides, and 1 valve for the kitchen/bedroom slides. That's the PITA. Should have a control and knob for each slide. Al |
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Post by Edd505 on Mar 10, 2018 21:30:22 GMT -5
I would like individual slide controls, my main slides open together, either maybe first out, bedrooms separate.
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Post by Chuck on Mar 11, 2018 12:54:19 GMT -5
That would be nice Edd, our main slide both open at the same time as well, but the drivers side seem to open before the passengers side just enough so if we need something out of the kitchen draws if we need such ... Maybe they were thinking ahead, naw that can't be  Safe Travels Chuck |
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Post by bob52 on Mar 12, 2018 9:49:48 GMT -5
That would be nice Edd, our main slide both open at the same time as well, but the drivers side seem to open before the passengers side just enough so if we need something out of the kitchen draws if we need such ... Maybe they were thinking ahead, naw that can't be Safe Travels Chuck I was told that the heavier side will go first. For me it would be the fridge side. When I hit the slide button the fridge side does come out first. Maybe the tech was correct. Bob |
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Post by Chuck on Mar 12, 2018 9:59:03 GMT -5
Bob Yes, my frig side opens up just enough to get into the draws an then the main dinning/door slide opens all the way an after that the drivers side will open all the way, so they sort of switch back an forth on mine ... test drove it yesterday again to make sure an that's what happened Chuck |
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Post by bob52 on Mar 12, 2018 12:16:08 GMT -5
Bob Yes, my frig side opens up just enough to get into the draws an then the main dinning/door slide opens all the way an after that the drivers side will open all the way, so they sort of switch back an forth on mine ... test drove it yesterday again to make sure an that's what happened Chuck Hmmm, you got me wanting to check again LOL. I thought for sure mine went all the way before the dining side started to move. Have it on the side of the house now. I will try again. Hey can you recommend a slider lube? I know it has to be a dry type which I never heard of before, but the service tech @ the dealership said to use lithium, but that is far from dry! I use that on my garage door opener. At the time I did not know any better. Maybe I should let the Service Manager know what he is recommending. Thanks Bob |
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Post by bob52 on Mar 12, 2018 12:18:26 GMT -5
Hey Chuck do you live in the PNW? We lived up there between Bremerton and Silverdale for 10 years. I really miss that area so much. What a contrast it was moving from there to Houston. This place is a great place if you like fungus growing in your armpits and black mold on your face (-:
Bob
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Post by Chuck on Mar 13, 2018 14:08:39 GMT -5
Bob LOL I moved from San Antonio in 1983 to up here, we live about 50 miles south of Tacoma an about 10 miles away from Centralia in a small farm town called Rochester 5 miles off I-5 Before moving here 10 years ago we had a farm near Graham WA at worked at Interstate Dist. Driving truck We have more cows that people LOL Safe Travels Chuck |
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As far as calling Kz an getting a manual directed to your trailer I have to say good luck because there is
