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Post by Tony & Shell on Sept 9, 2017 22:11:24 GMT -5
So have used the AC on our unit 3 times now. The first two times it seemed too cool fine but ice up, then blow warm. I'd shut it off, in five min water would stream off the roof and all would be well. This last weekend we were sitting in the 90s outside and my wife wanted to take a nap. Start the generator, kick on the ac, it never cooled off the trailer. Air coming out was only 80 degrees. I've called and made an appointment to have it looked at (two months away) but concerned maybe i'm doing something wrong. Any tips on using the AC?
Thanks
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Post by rvdude on Sept 9, 2017 22:45:48 GMT -5
I had that happen one time on my 07 KZ. It was a cheaper trailer with a knob like a car ac that you turn toward the blue side for cold air and to the red for warm air. It was really hot outside and I had it turned all the way to the cold side. From then on, I made sure I went just short of all the way on the cold side and it worked fine from then on. I don't know if that is your problem or not, but it fixed mine. There are a lot of knowledgable people on here, so somebody else should have some other ideas for you. Good luck, and I hope it is a simple fix.
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Post by nvguy on Sept 10, 2017 0:19:13 GMT -5
A couple of causes, 1: Restricted / low air flow, if you have a ducted unit, avoid closing registers, or low fan speed relative to the level of cool selected. 2: Internal air leaks between intake and output. Some A/C models also have sensors that monitor the temp of the coils to prevent freeze up, some don't, but I have seen those sensors fall or get knocked off the fins.
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Post by bc75 on Sept 10, 2017 5:54:52 GMT -5
Mine did the same thing. My converter was putting to much power out.The dealer told me my AC was going into safe mode.He talked me though how to check it. While i was checking the converter got worse my lights stopped working. So i ordered a new one everything works great again.
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Post by lynnmor on Sept 10, 2017 10:16:48 GMT -5
Mine did the same thing. My converter was putting to much power out.The dealer told me my AC was going into safe mode.He talked me though how to check it. While i was checking the converter got worse my lights stopped working. So i ordered a new one everything works great again. The AC has absolutely nothing to do with the converter. The OP has a freeze up problem and the advice above from nvguy is good. Sometimes it takes a long time to completely defrost the AC and it is a good idea to turn the thermostat to where it will cycle occasionally during humid weather. It is possible that the OP's AC is failing, but time will tell.
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Post by bc75 on Sept 10, 2017 10:55:54 GMT -5
All I know is I replaced the converter and it works now.
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Post by lynnmor on Sept 10, 2017 17:15:00 GMT -5
All I know is I replaced the converter and it works now. I kind of jumped the gun in my comment. The AC uses only 120 volt power, but some thermostats use the 12 volt power supplied by the converter and battery. A freeze up problem could happen if the thermostat continues to call for cooling beyond a reasonable level.
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Post by Tony & Shell on Sept 10, 2017 17:56:50 GMT -5
I had the thermostat set at 70, fan on high. The humidity last weekend was in the teens (colorado). I tried opening the vents on the unit as well instead of relying on the just the ducts. Also popped the cover off to make sure the sensor was in the fins, it was. Several of my friends had theirs running and their trailers were much more comfy.
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Post by joecamper on Sept 10, 2017 21:33:29 GMT -5
A few years past with a similar sized camper, I had freezing problems also. The only thing that seemed to work was setting the temperature control just down a little bit (the temp was controlled at the AC unit, not a thermostat). In your cast, I would think 70 might be part of the issue.
Just throwing that out for what it's worth.
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Post by 2ndchance on Sept 11, 2017 5:49:40 GMT -5
Hi Tony & Shell; First, I offer these comments based on 35 years in the HVAC trade. The most common cause for ac freeze up is low air flow, which has been addressed, IE, dirty filter, dirty coil, blocked return or supply etc. Being a new unit, the first two can probably be ruled out. Another common cause is the thermostat. First, You can't trust the t/s setting. Most thermostats today are electronic although some cheaper models may still use bi-metal elements. As the name implies, it's two strips of different metal, fused together that expand & contract at different rates causing the element to bend with temperature changes. The first are more accurate but they are all calibrated in controlled conditions when made and rarely will any two cycle at the same temp. You should check the reading with a good thermometer so you know how close to the actual temp it is. Any source of heat close by - lamp, sun through window etc can keep the t/s calling. A 70 degree setting is borderline low if your t/s is off a couple of degrees but with a properly operating a/c the temperature should get uncomfortably cool before it freezes up. Humidity in the teens shouldn't factor in. High humidity increases the heat load on the unit and would be less apt to cause a freeze up. Since it didn't cool at all the last time you tried it, your unit is probably bad. If you try it again, set your t/s above 70, close the big vents in the main supply and return cover(this will prevent short cycling air between supply and return) make sure all the duct vents are open. Observe air flow, these things move a lot of air. Check the temp drop from return to supply using the same thermometer. Should be in the neighborhood of 15 - 20 degrees. Much over 20 indicates poor air flow. There could be some insulation or other material from construction blocking the coil. You can drop the filter cover down and look up inside. You could also pull the roof cover off but I would be really careful not to do anything that could void your warranty. Can't imagine why you have to wait 2 months for service on a new trailer.
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Post by nvguy on Sept 12, 2017 23:49:51 GMT -5
Hate to say it 2ndchance, but 2 months isn't all that uncommon, the RV industry is terribly understaffed. But for something simple as this, the dealer really ought to get you in much faster. A good tech can diagnose this in the driveway. Rather than waiting for your dealer, check the website for the A/C mfg- (coleman or whoever) and see if they have a warranty repair place near you, some Mfgs have dedicated appliance/ A/C repair outfits they deal with.
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Post by Tony & Shell on Sept 14, 2017 22:17:07 GMT -5
Normally i'd troubleshoot it and repair myself but being under warranty my bride had forbidden me from touching it. Since its starting to cool off and our next two trips are in the mountains i'll live.
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