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Post by johnr on Aug 18, 2017 7:55:58 GMT -5
I know this is an inflammatory subject here, and probably everywhere, so I apologize ahead of time.
My father-in-law had a blowout a couple weeks ago. He's got an RV about the same year and size as mine, 35 feet overall, 13,000 GVWR. He decided to get 4 new tires, so he went to a local trailer parts/accessories place.
They ended up selling him a set of Sailuns, load range F for about $140 a piece. He absolutely loves them and says the trailer has never towed so easily.
He's almost got me convinced to go get a set of them myself, since my RV is about to start it's fifth year of service.
Looking for any information related to Sailun tires and quality before I pull the trigger.
Thanks!
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Post by jetzen on Aug 18, 2017 8:55:21 GMT -5
I know this is an inflammatory subject here, and probably everywhere, so I apologize ahead of time. My father-in-law had a blowout a couple weeks ago. He's got an RV about the same year and size as mine, 35 feet overall, 13,000 GVWR. He decided to get 4 new tires, so he went to a local trailer parts/accessories place. They ended up selling him a set of Sailuns, load range F for about $140 a piece. He absolutely loves them and says the trailer has never towed so easily. He's almost got me convinced to go get a set of them myself, since my RV is about to start it's fifth year of service. Looking for any information related to Sailun tires and quality before I pull the trigger. Thanks! sending you a pm
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Post by ronc on Sept 7, 2017 17:07:44 GMT -5
I know this is an inflammatory subject here, and probably everywhere, so I apologize ahead of time. My father-in-law had a blowout a couple weeks ago. He's got an RV about the same year and size as mine, 35 feet overall, 13,000 GVWR. He decided to get 4 new tires, so he went to a local trailer parts/accessories place. They ended up selling him a set of Sailuns, load range F for about $140 a piece. He absolutely loves them and says the trailer has never towed so easily. He's almost got me convinced to go get a set of them myself, since my RV is about to start it's fifth year of service. Looking for any information related to Sailun tires and quality before I pull the trigger. Thanks! I have only heard good things about Sailun tires. Most will steer you away from tires built in China, but even though Sailuns are made in China, they seem to be a pretty good performer. I would not be concerned about Sailuns.
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Post by Chuck on Sept 11, 2017 11:29:41 GMT -5
jetzen an a few others have convinced me to buy Sailun tires
Chuck
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Post by doublewa on Oct 17, 2017 20:07:20 GMT -5
jetzen an a few others have convinced me to buy Sailun tires Chuck Chuck, Did you have to change your rims? As you know, I haven't even had my rig a week yet, but I am already looking to get rid of the POS ST235/80R16 Trailer King's and go with something more proven. My GVWR is supposedly (according to KZ) is 11,000lbs.
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Post by Chuck on Oct 18, 2017 13:02:25 GMT -5
doublewa No I did not an I am sure my rims an your rims should be alike 16 inch an rated for 110psi Chuck
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Post by doublewa on Oct 18, 2017 13:49:41 GMT -5
doublewa No I did not an I am sure my rims an your rims should be alike 16 inch an rated for 110psi Chuck I believe they are the same. I'd have to look. I just hear horror stories about those Trailer King tires and the $ for new, better tires is by far cheaper than a blowout. I guess I just need to do a little research given my weight classification.
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Post by Edd505 on Oct 18, 2017 15:01:05 GMT -5
I'm the odd one here, I quit ST's & I run LT's on my trailers. I had the new tires removed from the new Durango & had them put the tires off my trade on. IMHO lT's are the only way to go.
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Post by doublewa on Oct 19, 2017 20:48:03 GMT -5
doublewa No I did not an I am sure my rims an your rims should be alike 16 inch an rated for 110psi Chuck I MENT TO ASK YOU THIS EARLIER cHUCK, BUT HOW HEAVY ARE YOU LOADED? i'M ASSUMING THAT YOU ARE PROBABLY HEAVIER THAN i AM.
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Post by Chuck on Oct 19, 2017 22:58:58 GMT -5
doublewa Pretty much close to 13,750pds or a little more when loaded with cloths, panty full, two sacks of dog food, dog dishes, tools, wood leveling blocks, 1/3 or a little more in the fresh water tank an some in the black water tank ... Safe Travels Chuck & Hildi
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Post by doublewa on Oct 20, 2017 8:19:59 GMT -5
doublewa Pretty much close to 13,750pds or a little more when loaded with cloths, panty full, two sacks of dog food, dog dishes, tools, wood leveling blocks, 1/3 or a little more in the fresh water tank an some in the black water tank ... Safe Travels Chuck & Hildi Yeah, You're a little heavier than I am. The 311TH10 is listed at 7,000lbs dry and a GVWR at 11,000. I'm still in the process of getting everything for her, but once I do I'm going to take her down to the scale and see what she really weighs. The Trailer King's are rated at 3,500lbs per tire at 80PSI, and with 4 of them, that puts me 3,000lbs over my limit, The reviews on these are generally positive and they are rated for 75MPH, so I'm thinking I might be okay if I stick to/below my GVWR and keep her 70 and below. Just scared the crap out of me since I have no experience with these things.
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Post by Chuck on Oct 20, 2017 11:02:11 GMT -5
doublewa My dry weight is 12,495 pd even thought Kz states it is suppose to be 12,860, even empty I my rig weights more than you rig loaded... My providers tires were ST235/75R16 E an If I remember right were rated at 3570 an 65mph which came on my trailer ... Since I travel between 60 an 65mph an 70mph when passing I believe the Providers were ok, but a little more never hurt anyone except in the back pocket, the local tire store had Sailun tires for $140 per tire installed an balanced Safe Travels Chuck & Hildi
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Post by ronc on Nov 4, 2017 20:10:20 GMT -5
doublewa Pretty much close to 13,750pds or a little more when loaded with cloths, panty full, two sacks of dog food, dog dishes, tools, wood leveling blocks, 1/3 or a little more in the fresh water tank an some in the black water tank ... Safe Travels Chuck & Hildi Yeah, You're a little heavier than I am. The 311TH10 is listed at 7,000lbs dry and a GVWR at 11,000. I'm still in the process of getting everything for her, but once I do I'm going to take her down to the scale and see what she really weighs. The Trailer King's are rated at 3,500lbs per tire at 80PSI, and with 4 of them, that puts me 3,000lbs over my limit, The reviews on these are generally positive and they are rated for 75MPH, so I'm thinking I might be okay if I stick to/below my GVWR and keep her 70 and below. Just scared the crap out of me since I have no experience with these things. Doublewa, If I’m reading your info correctly, your GVWR is 11,000 lbs. if so, the E rated Trailer Kings are sufficient as the weight carried by your axles is between 75-80% of your GVW (so between 8,250 - 8,800 lbs). The remainder of your 11,000 is carried by the rear axle of your truck as pin weight. So the E rated tires are good, weight wise. They are not speed rated to 75 ... they are speed rated at 65 MPH ... max! There are OK Chinese tires and there are not OK Chinese tires. IMO, Trailer King fits in the second category. Same size and rated Sailun would be better, but I am a Goodyear (American Made) guy. I would use the new Goodyear Endurance tire, which is developing a good reputation. Do not use Goodyear Marathons as they are no better than your Trailer Kings. My best advice is for you to slow down. I personally tow at 60 and since everyone else is trying to go faster, I have no trouble maintaining a safe following distance and it makes my towing experience very low stress. Speed heats up tires and IMHO, 70 is too fast to be safe ... but that is just my opinion. travel safe😎
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Post by Chuck on Nov 4, 2017 20:35:55 GMT -5
Ronc Man out here at 60mph your going to take your life in your own hands lol, even at 65mph I get scared Ugh If you are not doing at least 80, talking on your cell phone, putting on makeup an holding the steering wheel with your knees you not driving The use of the turn signals is a thing of the past, if you use your turn signals they only speed up so you can't change into their lane Ugh Chuck
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Post by ronc on Nov 6, 2017 14:24:04 GMT -5
Ronc Man out here at 60mph your going to take your life in your own hands lol, even at 65mph I get scared Ugh If you are not doing at least 80, talking on your cell phone, putting on makeup an holding the steering wheel with your knees you not driving The use of the turn signals is a thing of the past, if you use your turn signals they only speed up so you can't change into their lane Ugh Chuck No argument from me on that. The main reason I like 60 is that I know it will take a much longer stopping distance when towing, so at 60 I have no trouble maintaining a safe following distance, as everyone is pulling away from me. I also get a bit better fuel mileage, but the main reason is the following distance. Other drivers (cars and pickups) don't seem to understand that pulling right in front of a big ole trailer is potentially dangerous ... if they slam on their brakes they will get plowed into. I also like a big following distance because if there is any "junk" in the road, I can see it in plenty of time to avoid it.
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Post by doublewa on Nov 6, 2017 15:49:05 GMT -5
Yeah, You're a little heavier than I am. The 311TH10 is listed at 7,000lbs dry and a GVWR at 11,000. I'm still in the process of getting everything for her, but once I do I'm going to take her down to the scale and see what she really weighs. The Trailer King's are rated at 3,500lbs per tire at 80PSI, and with 4 of them, that puts me 3,000lbs over my limit, The reviews on these are generally positive and they are rated for 75MPH, so I'm thinking I might be okay if I stick to/below my GVWR and keep her 70 and below. Just scared the crap out of me since I have no experience with these things. Doublewa, If I’m reading your info correctly, your GVWR is 11,000 lbs. if so, the E rated Trailer Kings are sufficient as the weight carried by your axles is between 75-80% of your GVW (so between 8,250 - 8,800 lbs). The remainder of your 11,000 is carried by the rear axle of your truck as pin weight. So the E rated tires are good, weight wise. They are not speed rated to 75 ... they are speed rated at 65 MPH ... max! There are OK Chinese tires and there are not OK Chinese tires. IMO, Trailer King fits in the second category. Same size and rated Sailun would be better, but I am a Goodyear (American Made) guy. I would use the new Goodyear Endurance tire, which is developing a good reputation. Do not use Goodyear Marathons as they are no better than your Trailer Kings. My best advice is for you to slow down. I personally tow at 60 and since everyone else is trying to go faster, I have no trouble maintaining a safe following distance and it makes my towing experience very low stress. Speed heats up tires and IMHO, 70 is too fast to be safe ... but that is just my opinion. travel safe😎 Ron, I try to stay between 60-65MPH with mine, yet sometimes I will look down and I'll see 70+ but it certainly isn't intentional. I'm going to get a TPMS for it regardless of what I do with the the tires. You just hear all these tire stories and it makes you wonder.
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Post by ronc on Nov 6, 2017 16:51:12 GMT -5
The TPMS is a great idea. There is a gent who has been full time for many years (nearly 20) and he advises that every tire on the ground should have a monitor. I personally monitor all 10 tires. I have one “save” so I consider that the system paid for itself. Big peace of mind component to having a TPMS.
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Post by doublewa on Nov 6, 2017 17:04:58 GMT -5
Absolutely Ron. Since the season is over, I've got some time to get it. The bugger is this is my 1st fiver and we got it the 1st week of October, so we have yet to actually use it. I'm going to use the winter to get it outfitted so that we are ready to go when the weather breaks in April. The TPMS is on the list.
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Post by Chuck on Nov 6, 2017 18:52:19 GMT -5
When I was driving truck over the road I use to tell people do the math, truck 75,000 to close to 80,000pds, car 4,000 to 6,000pds who is going to win if you blow a tire or have to stop right in front of me Ugh ! ! ! The Washington State Police (WSP) rides along with different trucking companies out here, they pull a trailer with big lettering on it stating you need to give a distance between cars an truck when you pull in front of them. The WSP patrolmen is there to call ahead when some pulls right in front of the truck their are riding in to his fellow patrolmen sitting down the road to pull the car over that did such. They only cover about 20 miles in each direction, 1st time out they wrote over 100 tickets in one direction, next day the same thing, over a 100 tickets in the other direction. The local paper complained because they were picking on cars an needed to stop, they are still doing to this day an still writing tickets to this day, the count never seems to go down BTW .... Safe Travels Chuck
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Post by Chuck on Nov 6, 2017 18:55:28 GMT -5
When I was driving truck over the road I use to tell people do the math, truck 75,000 to close to 80,000pds, car 4,000 to 6,000pds who is going to win if you blow a tire or have to stop right in front of me Ugh ! ! ! The Washington State Police (WSP) rides along with different trucking companies out here, they pull a trailer with big lettering on it stating you need to give a distance between cars an trucks when you pull in front of such. The WSP patrolmen is there to call ahead when someone pulls right in front of the truck they are riding in to his fellow patrolmen sitting down the road to pull the car over that did such. They only cover about 20 miles in each direction, 1st time out they wrote over 100 tickets in one direction, next day the same thing, over a 100 tickets in the other direction. The local paper complained because they were picking on cars an needed to stop writing tickets, they are still doing to this day an still writing tickets to this day, the count never seems to go down BTW .... Safe Travels Chuck
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