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Post by lynnmor on Oct 1, 2018 23:23:26 GMT -5
The 50 psi wouldn’t bother me a bit, if it looks like the connections are an easy swap, it is as good as any.
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Post by lynnmor on Oct 2, 2018 7:24:55 GMT -5
OK lynnmor, what type clamps are you using on the white line left side of the check valve? I see a gear clamp on the rt and what looks like a PEX to the left. I had a leak on a hose like that and 3/8 PEX doesn't fit well over the hose. I forced one on but I'm not happy with the connection. Actually some of the plumbing is original KZ stuff. KZ might use PEX clamps on water hose, and even put water hose on a PEX barb, but that is incorrect. Yes, I have repaired a number of these ridiculous connections. Use hose barb fittings for water hose and PEX barb fittings for PEX pipe. Use ordinary hose clamps on hose and compression PEX rings on PEX pipe. Note that PEX barbs are smaller in diameter and have smooth barbs and hose barbs have sharper edges to hold soft hose material. PEX FittingsHose Barb
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Post by capemayal on Oct 2, 2018 8:02:36 GMT -5
Assuming you mean its running when you're on city water and not wanting to use the pump, make sure the outside switch is off.
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Post by Edd505 on Oct 2, 2018 14:37:59 GMT -5
Actually some of the plumbing is original KZ stuff. KZ might use PEX clamps on water hose, and even put water hose on a PEX barb, but that is incorrect. Yes, I have repaired a number of these ridiculous connections. Use hose barb fittings for water hose and PEX barb fittings for PEX pipe. Use ordinary hose clamps on hose and compression PEX rings on PEX pipe. Note that PEX barbs are smaller in diameter and have smooth barbs and hose barbs have sharper edges to hold soft hose material. PEX FittingsHose BarbThat's exactly the issue, the T to the right in your picture has both PEX & Hose on it, that hose connection leaks. Guess the gear clamps going to be the only fix as the 1/2 PEX does not fit over the hose. The next would be to find a T with PEX & Hose, doubtful there is one.
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Post by lynnmor on Oct 2, 2018 17:43:59 GMT -5
That's exactly the issue, the T to the right in your picture has both PEX & Hose on it, that hose connection leaks. Guess the gear clamps going to be the only fix as the 1/2 PEX does not fit over the hose. The next would be to find a T with PEX & Hose, doubtful there is one. OK, now I know exactly which connection you are referring to. That particular connection is the original one from KZ and it is a PEX ring clamping a hose on a PEX fitting. So far it hasn't leaked but it is not a proper connection. I have never seen a hose to PEX fitting and believe me I have looked. The Polybutylene adapters come close and I have successfully used a few. Here is what I used: link
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Post by Edd505 on Oct 2, 2018 21:06:59 GMT -5
Thanks lynnmor, I'll see if I can get that clamp.
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Post by hannahsdad on Oct 3, 2018 12:34:29 GMT -5
I just love it when you guys talk technical. So if I want to replace my kitchen faucet with something better, what type of clamp should I use ......PEX, or hose clamp?
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Post by Chuck on Oct 3, 2018 13:21:58 GMT -5
Our kitchen faucet had regular metal flexible lines with screw on fittings like you have in your home coming from the faucet to the tubing were it screwed on ... How ever you will need a tool to reach up to unscrew the bolt holding the faucet base to the counter (real pain in the backside), that's if it's a metal/stainless steel faucet, don't know about
the plastic ones ...
Safe Travels
Chuck
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Post by esox07 on Oct 3, 2018 14:19:58 GMT -5
Back to the original topic of a new water pump. I just received my www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002XM5G70/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1today and when I took it out of the box and took the protective caps off the intake and out-take, some water dripped out. Is that normal? Do they actually test them in the factor before sending them out or did I maybe get one that had been used and returned to Amazon. I don't want to install it until I know for sure, because if it isn't NEW, then I don't want it. Obviously, if someone installed it and used it and then returned it, they did so for a reason. I emailed Shurflo C/S but likely I won't hear back from them for a week or more. Let me know what you guys think.
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Post by esox07 on Oct 3, 2018 14:33:21 GMT -5
OK, just got off phone with C/S and they said they are factory tested with water. So all is good.
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Post by lynnmor on Oct 3, 2018 14:48:26 GMT -5
While Amazon is not always the lowest price, if there is a problem returns are easy. If you have PEX or braided 1/2" hose going straight to the faucet, I would cut the pipe and then install a common stop valve. Of course the valve would be the type that matches the line. From the valve to the faucet, use standard supply lines. All parts are available at home centers. Without stop valves, you need to shut down the entire water supply in the event of a failure. There is a tool called a basin wrench that could be helpful installing supply lines and the faucet. link
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Post by nvguy on Oct 3, 2018 21:04:01 GMT -5
This is a basin wrench, makes replacing a faucet much easier. Good idea on the valves, easy to install while your'e already under there.
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Post by Chuck on Oct 4, 2018 11:00:50 GMT -5
Amen nvguy !!!!
Chuck
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Post by esox07 on May 29, 2019 14:06:04 GMT -5
Hey all, as OP on this thread, I just wanted to come back and update the out come. I went ahead and purchased: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002XM5G70/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and installed it last fall. The install was simple even given the limited work area. I used it one or two outings last fall and twice so far this spring and it is working great for me. It only cycles when water is actively being used and doesn't come on between uses. It is also much quieter than the old factory pump and it seems to run easier when it does come on. Thanks to everyone for all the help and advice, I now have a trouble free water pump. I have wondered what to do with the old pump. I didn't want to just chuck it and I don't really care to try to fix the diaphram which is the most likely problem. So, what I have come up with is that I will mount it to a board and use it to siphon water from a portable water tank into my fresh water tank on the camper. I have had to manually siphon water before and it is hard to do and time consuming using gravity.
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Post by Edd505 on May 29, 2019 14:34:21 GMT -5
While this has been resurrected I'll add that I have been told you can use SharkBites on PEX to PVC, PEX to hose is still and issue without screw clamps.
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Post by lynnmor on May 29, 2019 15:53:13 GMT -5
So, what I have come up with is that I will mount it to a board and use it to siphon water from a portable water tank into my fresh water tank on the camper. I have had to manually siphon water before and it is hard to do and time consuming using gravity. I removed the check valve in the city water port and added an inline check valve inside. Between the new check valve and the city water port I added a tee and connected the winterizing hose to it. Now I can pull water into the city water port and direct it the tank or right into the water system. The benefits are that no additional pump is needed, no custom water hoses, the winterizing hose stays sanitary and no wiring or switches are needed. I did post this modification earlier. I would disassemble the old pump and fix it for a spare, it may only be dirt and the fix may cost nothing.
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Post by esox07 on May 29, 2019 15:58:46 GMT -5
Lynnmor, I just don't want to go through all that plumbing.
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Post by lynnmor on May 29, 2019 17:18:47 GMT -5
Lynnmor, I just don't want to go through all that plumbing. Remove hose from inlet. Punch out check valve. Cut hose twice. Insert check valve. Insert tee. Tighten six hose clamps.
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Post by esox07 on May 29, 2019 17:48:58 GMT -5
Lynnmor, I may get around to that at some point. However, right now, I have a lot going on with no time for a project like this for a while. I still have plans to add a quick connect port to my propane system that I can plug my Weber Q into. But, even before that, I have a lot on my plate. If/when I get the time and gumption for your plumbing mod, I will probably ask for a few more details before tackling the project. Thanks for your help.
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