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Post by shogunles on Mar 23, 2017 14:21:29 GMT -5
Hello all. I have a question regarding Auto Leveling my DG 382MBQ. I have the new Myrv system in my fiver. It really does not make a difference, as my question would simply pertain to auto level of any sort. This is my first fiver with hydraulic jacks and 6 jacks. I was on a site slightly off level and down to the passenger side. When I auto leveled it, the tires on the passenger side lifted off the ground. I am not too comfortable with this, as any number of issues can occur. I am not as clever as when I was a young man.
Is there a to avoid the tires lifting, without hooking back up, retrieving the jacks, and putting some cribbing under the affected side tires?
Any input you may have would be a big help as well as appreciated. Thank you!
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Post by johnr on Mar 23, 2017 14:38:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure what you can do if you don't want to hook back up. I try to level my unit up fairly well (get bubble inside the lines) side to side before using the auto leveler.
You could get a floor jack, jack up that side a little bit, put some boards under the tire and let it down onto them?
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Post by shogunles on Mar 23, 2017 19:43:02 GMT -5
Thank you. I was just trying to eliminate a step. As I said, I am not as clever as I used to be. I will just get it somewhat level before I unhook. Thanks for reading. Be well!
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Post by Edd505 on Mar 23, 2017 21:53:45 GMT -5
It won't help this time but a large level on the front will let you watch for the levelest spot. If its off as bad as I picture in your post, look at some Anderson levelers. Best investment I made for quick level. They will lift a full 4", you need two sets on for each wheel. Hardest part of using them is moving inches and not feet to level, takes some practice.
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Post by Chuck on Mar 24, 2017 12:18:56 GMT -5
shogunles
I carry around in the bed of my truck a 6ft 4x6 plank, I like johnr use a level to first make sure I am
pretty close to level before using my auto leveling system.
I put down the plank, back onto the plank thus raise one side or the other then put down my auto leveling.
I like you a new to this type of system but now have done this in my drive which is uneven as it has worked
pretty darn well.
Just a thought, I wonder if putting some say 6x6 or 8x8 blocks or as Edd505 stated some Anderson levelers
which far lighter than the others under the auto-levelers thus get around the problem of your tires coming off the
ground and still level the rig ....
Just a thought, how about it johnr
Chuck
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Post by johnr on Mar 24, 2017 12:36:51 GMT -5
I think even if you put blocks under your leveler pads, the side still has to raise the same amount. The tires would still come off the ground.
On a side note, I keep looking at the Andersen levelers but haven't pulled the trigger. That ultimate gear duffel bag looks pretty cool! Maybe I'll measure up my wheel spacing (because it has to be a certain distance for the levelers I think) this spring and put this up for my RV enhancement purchase of the year.
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Post by Chuck on Mar 24, 2017 13:01:57 GMT -5
Hummmmmmm
Something else to think about, I already spent my RV enhancement purchase this year our G384FLT LOL
Chuck
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Post by joecamper on Mar 24, 2017 18:44:40 GMT -5
These issues are exactly why I didn't get the auto leveling. Many other forums were full of "it leaves the camper way too high" stories. I have a remote jack system and I can get leveled really quick. When the auto leveling works good, it's really awesome, but I like my remote and doing it myself just fine. Good luck with figuring out your issue.
My 2 cents.
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Post by Chuck on Mar 25, 2017 2:33:54 GMT -5
I can put my system in manual and lower the jacks to the height I want on each one instead of doing the auto level...
Mine dozen't seem that high in Auto level even with an uneven driveway, I have friend that puts 8x8 blocks under
his auto leveling system and it seems to level ok an not to high. I have cement blocks (8" high) right now under
all my jacks pads while they are down and it dozen't seem to high ...
I wonder if I put a couple of 8x8 wooden blocks under each jack will they extend to a height that is excitable or
will I raise the tires off the ground, or will the leveling system detect that it has hit something solid and
stop at that point hummmmmmmmm ...
Questions, food for thought
Before with the manual jacks I put a couple of blocks under each stabilizer screw jack and the front so the
5th wheel was more stable and didn't move around. I have always been of the mind that the longer or farther you
have you jacks/stabilizers down the more the unit would move, the closer/less traveled the better for more
stability ...
Of course I only had 4 points, the two front which dropped down and you had to pin them and the two rear screw
jacks, now I have the two front and 4 back so the trailer is much more stable of course ...
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Post by Edd505 on Mar 25, 2017 12:40:50 GMT -5
On a really uneven site I would put the Anderson's under the wheels and lego blocks under the leveling jacks. On Anderson spacing they come a little long to fit between the tandem wheels on some units and the instructions enclosed say to cut them if you can't get them between the wheels. I cut mine both to fit under my SOB 5W and then I didn't have to select the right one for between. They cut easy with a power hack saw or circle saw. With a large front mounted level I can watch for "level" as I move the 5W. Learning small moves, inches, was way different. No moving, add blocks get back on the block, too little, move off and add, too much move off subtract, Finally! This is the level I use www.campingworld.com/browse/skus/index.cfm?skunum=30939&rewrote&affiliateid=5193&gclid=CMGZq8iZ8tICFcSXfgodsIEBDA |
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Post by johnr on Mar 27, 2017 7:26:08 GMT -5
The auto levelers can be re-calibrated. If your camper is not level after using auto level, you can manually put it where you want and then reset the system to level. That way the next time you use it, it will use the new settings.
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Post by shogunles on Mar 31, 2017 14:42:13 GMT -5
Thank you Fellas. I do have those plastic cribbing blocks that I carry with me. I was trying to se if there was a way to avoid hooking back up to place them under the wheels. I believe I tried every way I could. Even blocks on either side, under the jacks. It seemed good in theory. Appreciate the input. Be well.
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Post by Chuck on Apr 9, 2017 20:52:03 GMT -5
It won't help this time but a large level on the front will let you watch for the levelest spot. If its off as bad as I picture in your post, look at some Anderson levelers. Best investment I made for quick level. They will lift a full 4", you need two sets on for each wheel. Hardest part of using them is moving inches and not feet to level, takes some practice. Edd505 I bought one of those large levels you talked about, WOW, your right great investment for quicker leveling  Chuck |
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Post by Edd505 on Apr 9, 2017 21:27:15 GMT -5
That and my Anderson levelers are a must have for me.
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Post by Chuck on Apr 10, 2017 12:31:02 GMT -5
Well I have the old 8x8 blocks I used in the old 5th wheel under the leveling jacks, I have the "X" type to chock the tires, an 2x6 planks for leveling so it's hard to brake on old habit LOL, But I'm sure the Anderson levelers they are much lighter than the planks, also need to get some of the 8x10 yellow pads to replace the old wood 8x8 blocks. With the weight of this trailer I believe I will buy some in the near future and leave the wood planks and 8x8 blocks at home, more than likely free up a few hundred pound for mother to load her stuff Chuck |
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