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Post by vagov on Feb 20, 2017 12:36:38 GMT -5
I got a 2015 spree escape 196s. Was debating on buying a surge protector , looking at a progressive industries ems 30. But not sure if I could easily mount a hardwire unit. In it or simply go to a outdoor pole portable version, just wondering if anybody else uses a surge protector or not, plus trying to justify the need for it, plus the extra cost
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Post by jetzen on Feb 20, 2017 15:41:42 GMT -5
I would not leave home without one. I have read so many horror stories that I purchased a portable 50amp Camco from amazon about 3 years ago. I think at the time it was about $80.00. Not only is it a surge protector it monitors the incoming electric for problems. The only down side is that with a portable unit (any brand) it will not protect you trailer electrical if there is a problem with your landline electric cable.
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Post by Chuck on Feb 27, 2017 20:33:04 GMT -5
X2, Our progressive surge protector saved our old 5th wheel a year ago when the plug attached to the trailer melted down, the progressive industries surge protector saved the day, cut the power to the trailer ..... When we bought our new 5er the 1st thing I did is buy the progressive surge protector, hands down it is worth every penny you spend on it
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Post by RdRmr on Mar 9, 2017 13:23:40 GMT -5
X3 on the Progressive unit. Purchased a 50 AMP hard wire unit for our Durango 315RKD, wouldn't be without one. Has saved us a couple times. Had a 30 AMP unit on our previous 5TH wheel, sold that to a friend when we needed the larger one and he is using it on his trailer. Simple to install if you have the room. I like the Progressive units because they protect against other electrical issues beyond surges. Well worth the expense. Happy Camping....
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Post by lynnmor on Mar 9, 2017 16:13:37 GMT -5
I don't have a surge protector, perhaps I should. If you think about it, protecting a cheap TV and microwave with an expensive device may not gain you much. I use an autoformer that has some surge protection and will keep the air conditioner running when the voltage drops. Low voltage will kill an AC and a expensive surge protector will just shut you down completely if the voltage drops. The aforementioned plug meltdown is a case for using an expensive device that is capable of disconnecting power, cheap versions will not disconnect.
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Post by Chuck on Mar 9, 2017 20:48:03 GMT -5
lynnmor As RdRmr I have always installed Progressive units mainly because they protect against other electrical issues beyond surges ..... To me It's simple math, how much would it cost to re-wire your trailer or replace a number of electrical devices, as RDRmr stated well worth the expense We have always had internal with our class C and 5th wheels, this time we bought a external 50amp with the lock box so we will see how it holds up to the weather .... But I have to say that Progressive stands behind their product, had a camping friend have one that went bad. They replaced the unit without a problem no questions ask other than sending them the bad one once the new unit was in place, I believe it was over a couple of years old but not sure ......
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Post by vagov on Mar 10, 2017 17:38:33 GMT -5
I am probably going to purchase one next month after I bring my spree escape back home from winter storage, leaning towards a outside portable. That plugs into campground pole, since space is rather tight to try try mounting a hardwire, just debating on if I want to dish out $250 for the progressive ind. ems. Or a somewhat cheaper model. not sure if my converter has built in surge protection of any sort already , and. The trailer is not overloaded with expensive electronics , basically 2 way fridge, roof air, and a cheap microwave at most. But figure why not still protect it. My wife,s good friend. Purchased a barely used class c , and she fried her,s and had to rewire the whole coach, a lot of $$ ,by not using one.
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Post by Chuck on Mar 10, 2017 22:24:46 GMT -5
vagov I hate to say it but the old saying is "you can pay me now or pay me many $$$$$ later" The cheaper model dozen't have the protection the ems has, you will not regret buying the better progressive. I would also buy the lock box that goes around the plug end so your unit dozen't grow legs and walk off .... Think of it as an investment for the future
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Post by myredracer on Mar 10, 2017 23:07:46 GMT -5
Yes, definitely get one says me, an EE. For all the money you paid for the trailer plus all the other accessories and things you buy for it, these are pretty cheap insurance. FWIW, they aren't a "surge suppressor". Progressive Industries calls theirs an "EMS" while their competitor's name is Surge Guard and they call their line of surge protectors and power protection "surge protection". Confusing and annoying! An EMS/power protection unit monitors the incoming voltage and connection for a range of parameters. Low voltage is probably the most common you will run into and as mentioned, not good for an AC and can seriously damage them. An EMS includes monitoring for reverse polarity, open ground and open neutral which can be dangerous and even lethal. The Progressive Industries EMS is by far the better one - made in the US and has a lifetime warranty and is technically a bit better. We were at a Thousand Trails CG in Or. 2 seasons ago and our EMS shut us down on low voltage. I was trying to figure out why and didn't notice at first that we also had a simultaneous open ground! Their general purpose handyman/come electrician insisted it was perfectly fine because he had just replaced the receptacle. Glad we had an EMS. If you frequent older CGs like Thousand Trails, you will run into power problems sooner or later. I think the hardwired is the better way to go but some say a portable is best. With hardwired you don't have to drag it out every time, it's not exposed to the elements, won't walk away and is one less connection in the shore power cord to pedestal that can potentially overheat. In our 262RKS, the converter/panel is in the end of a dinette seat and there was a space beside it just large enough for the PI EMS and was an easy install. Different models will of course have different converter/panel locations and sometimes there won't be a space beside or near it. You can get the remote LED display but I find it really annoying to have it constantly scroll through the readings and mounted inside an upper cabinet so I can easily see a fault code if needed. I also installed a permanent LED voltmeter in the kitchen near the entry door so I can always keep tabs on the voltage at any time. If we get to a CG and the voltage is on the low side, we also have an autoformer but have only had to use it a few times a season. Another good thing to have for sure.
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Post by vagov on May 12, 2017 17:08:44 GMT -5
Ok saved up some extra change, and now getting ready to purchase. Going with the progressive industries ems as I agree it is the best. A pedistol mount would be easy, but worried about theft, as I camp mostly at state parks, and go explore for hours at times, wondering if anyone ever mounted one in a 196s escape? Not much room, thinking about cutting a hole in side of cabneit under fridge where fuse box is, as I assume this is where the power cord comes in, just double checking with those who may have hard wired one in a escape 196. For best location before cutting into my new camoer
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Post by Chuck on May 20, 2017 0:06:36 GMT -5
vagov
I put mine right were my power cord came in, but I had a very small cabinet/desk where the power cord was stored.
If you look under Edd505 in the Durango Gold section of this site you will see a pretty good discussion on this subject with pictures. Of course they have 5th wheels and much more room than you have but it may give you some Idea's
Safe Travels
Chuck
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