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Post by mechloom on Dec 17, 2023 8:42:12 GMT -5
Hey all,
So my KZ is being built in March and since I only get 2000 lbs cargo capacity I was wondering if anyone has ever tried to get the manufacturer to upgrade the items in the subject for a greater carrying capacity. I talked to a neighbor who had a grand design built and he was able to get an extra 2000 lbs by upgrading them directly with the manufacturer. I think it would be worth doing if possible. If not I guess I’ll just have to wait until my warranty expires then do it on my own.
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Post by laknox on Dec 18, 2023 12:00:07 GMT -5
Hey all, So my KZ is being built in March and since I only get 2000 lbs cargo capacity I was wondering if anyone has ever tried to get the manufacturer to upgrade the items in the subject for a greater carrying capacity. I talked to a neighbor who had a grand design built and he was able to get an extra 2000 lbs by upgrading them directly with the manufacturer. I think it would be worth doing if possible. If not I guess I’ll just have to wait until my warranty expires then do it on my own. The problem is, that this would almost certainly require an engineering change. Yes, you can add higher capacity axles, spring packs and tires, but unless you beef up the frame and =especially= the pin box area, you won't get much more CCC, =safely=. At least IMO. Go back about 10 years, and see how many frames were failing in the pin box area, especially, but just about anywhere forward of the front axle to the pin. Lots of torn metal, screws that were supposed to secure the upper frame structure to the base frame either stripping out or, in many cases, not even contacting the base that was supposed to hold it all down, absolutely crappy welds with no penetration, etc. I will say that Lippert, who supplies over 90% of towable RV frames, has stepped up their game and we're not seeing many of these failures any more, but they do happen from time to time. If you need something with significantly more CCC, then you're either going to have to re-think what you want to take with you or re-think what FW you need to carry your desired load. Lyle |
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Post by mechloom on Dec 21, 2023 13:29:25 GMT -5
Yes I have learned a lot since diving into the frame issues in the last week. I probably would have reconsidered buying the selected model if I had stumbled down this particular rabbit hole earlier. First time buyer problems I guess. I have heard of people reinforcing the frame and upgrading the axles suspension etc. I know that with my washer and dryer I’m basically down to 1700 lbs and if I get a generator that’s another 300 lbs Dry weight. I don’t really have a problem with packing light, my main concern is we will be right at capacity at all times.
The extra safety net for weight would be helpful. I don’t see us packing additional weight in the pin box. I was mostly thinking storage considering we will be living in it for 2 years until my wife finishes medical school.
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Post by Edd505 on Jan 3, 2024 19:47:48 GMT -5
Yes I have learned a lot since diving into the frame issues in the last week. I probably would have reconsidered buying the selected model if I had stumbled down this particular rabbit hole earlier. First time buyer problems I guess. I have heard of people reinforcing the frame and upgrading the axles suspension etc. I know that with my washer and dryer I’m basically down to 1700 lbs and if I get a generator that’s another 300 lbs Dry weight. I don’t really have a problem with packing light, my main concern is we will be right at capacity at all times. The extra safety net for weight would be helpful. I don’t see us packing additional weight in the pin box. I was mostly thinking storage considering we will be living in it for 2 years until my wife finishes medical school. If your wife is in school I assume you will be parked, if that's the case I would not worry about being some over weight. Your not headed down the road where it takes a beating, I know I'm over weight and I travel. I have upgraded suspension, 8K axles, and added disc brakes, could I have an issue yes, have I no. I would not worry at all if I was parked fro two years, I can down size to travel. |
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Post by nvguy on Jan 8, 2024 23:15:24 GMT -5
Yes I have learned a lot since diving into the frame issues in the last week. I probably would have reconsidered buying the selected model if I had stumbled down this particular rabbit hole earlier. First time buyer problems I guess. I have heard of people reinforcing the frame and upgrading the axles suspension etc. I know that with my washer and dryer I’m basically down to 1700 lbs and if I get a generator that’s another 300 lbs Dry weight. I don’t really have a problem with packing light, my main concern is we will be right at capacity at all times. The extra safety net for weight would be helpful. I don’t see us packing additional weight in the pin box. I was mostly thinking storage considering we will be living in it for 2 years until my wife finishes medical school. If your wife is in school I assume you will be parked, if that's the case I would not worry about being some over weight. Your not headed down the road where it takes a beating, I know I'm over weight and I travel. I have upgraded suspension, 8K axles, and added disc brakes, could I have an issue yes, have I no. I would not worry at all if I was parked fro two years, I can down size to travel. Edd brings up an excellent point, unless you are rolling down our lousy roads, the actual load on the running gear isn't all that great, yeah the weight is there, but it isn't being pounded on. |
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Post by WrkrBee on Jan 9, 2024 10:03:34 GMT -5
Agree. When parked, the load is spread over tires/axles, stabilizers, and tongue jack. Keep your tire pressure checked to maintain the load they carry. Even extra frame support points can be added.
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