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Post by Edd505 on Jan 6, 2021 18:14:53 GMT -5
I really like them; sure wish I'd had them on my old rig. Only downside, and it's minor, to having the 4-pt system, is that you don't have the Strongarms on the rearmost stabilizing jacks like you do on a non-auto-level system. As it is, there have been times I forgot to tighten the JTs after leveling, and it took a while to notice, it's that much more stable just on the 4-pt. When I do tighten them down, it =is= noticeable. Personally, after leveling, I'll raise the front end manually a touch, maybe 1/2", tighten the JTs, then drop it back down, again manually; I don't auto level. While I love the 4-pt system, I feel it could be better. One thing that I've noticed is that it almost =always= levels UPWARDS and almost never levels DOWNWARD. IMO, my rig can end up inches higher than necessary because of this. I wish there was a way to just tell the controller to "drop 2" on all jacks at once. The street in front of my house has a fairly high crown, and the curb side wheels are =always= off the ground and I have to add blocks under the RR jack or it will run out of stroke. At the same time, the street side wheels are also fairly well lunweighted. All because it continually re-levels UPWARDS. Lyle Have you checked/reset zero point? (LCI speak for level) If you want it slightly higher in the nose you can program "zero" to be slightly nose high, half a bubble? |
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Post by laknox on Jan 7, 2021 10:33:24 GMT -5
Edd, it's just about dead level in both directions, with a 4' bubble, so no need to reset it. My issue is that when it's leveling, it almost always corrects UPWARDS. I've seen it raise a jack =maybe= 2 times while leveling. With the jacks extended more, you get more movement. Also, the steps are higher off the ground. Like I said, I'd love to have a "retract all 1 inch" setting. There's already a "retract all" setting to use after you've hitched up. I haven't coded anything in decades, but I could write the logic chain out in about 2 minutes, or less.
Lyle
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Post by nvguy on Jan 7, 2021 23:52:09 GMT -5
I have noticed the same thing. The leveling system tends toward raising the coach to "find" level. I am just guessing here, but I bet whoever wrote the script for the leveling thought that it was best to unload the suspension-raising the coach so most of the weight is on the jacks, not on the suspension. Only issue is- as Lyle says- the more the jacks are extended you get more movement. It would be really nice to talk to a Lippert engineer.
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Post by Chuck on Jan 8, 2021 9:15:25 GMT -5
Might be a good idea to ask if they could get a Lippert engineer at the kz Rally to discuss such, looks like they are going to have such possibly in 2021 ... Safe Travels  Chuck |
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Post by jfspry58 on Jan 8, 2021 9:36:45 GMT -5
Mine also seems to level upward. With the solid steps, I find myself constantly having to adjust the legs on them. My wife is somewhat vertically challenged and doesn't really like that tall first step so we carry a little portable step that will fit below. Blocking under the jacks seems to help somewhat with movement but you definitely get more movement with the jacks extended further. Edd suggested resetting the zero point on mine, which I plan to do soon, as mine also seems to level with the nose and left side a little down.
Jay
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Post by Chuck on Jan 8, 2021 9:51:28 GMT -5
Mine also seems to level upward. With the solid steps, I find myself constantly having to adjust the legs on them. My wife is somewhat vertically challenged and doesn't really like that tall first step so we carry a little portable step that will fit below. Blocking under the jacks seems to help somewhat with movement but you definitely get more movement with the jacks extended further. Edd suggested resetting the zero point on mine, which I plan to do soon, as mine also seems to level with the nose and left side a little down. Jay Jay
You might get a 3ft level or longer an check level on your floor just in front of center counter an then storage area once set up ...
When i did mine I found I was just a tad off on the bubble to the high side, a slit tweak made it just right, that was over a year ago an checked it this past week an it was still right on, so I been pretty lucky with not having to adjust the trailer again ...
Now that I said such I more than likely put the kiss of death on it Ugh !!!
Safe Travels
Chuck
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Post by jfspry58 on Jan 8, 2021 12:27:00 GMT -5
Mine also seems to level upward. With the solid steps, I find myself constantly having to adjust the legs on them. My wife is somewhat vertically challenged and doesn't really like that tall first step so we carry a little portable step that will fit below. Blocking under the jacks seems to help somewhat with movement but you definitely get more movement with the jacks extended further. Edd suggested resetting the zero point on mine, which I plan to do soon, as mine also seems to level with the nose and left side a little down. Jay Jay
You might get a 3ft level or longer an check level on your floor just in front of center counter an then storage area once set up ...
When i did mine I found I was just a tad off on the bubble to the high side, a slit tweak made it just right, that was over a year ago an checked it this past week an it was still right on, so I been pretty lucky with not having to adjust the trailer again ...
Now that I said such I more than likely put the kiss of death on it Ugh !!!
Safe Travels
Chuck
Yep, probably just jinxed yourself! Lol! Jay |
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