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Post by nvguy on Nov 10, 2020 22:09:32 GMT -5
Ya know, that would be the smart way to do it, each jack position gets a specific connection. But then the manufactures would really have to pay attention.
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Post by Chuck on Nov 11, 2020 8:55:01 GMT -5
First it wasn't KZ that did this. I don't remember who made the coach. Nope, nothing at the board level where any solder work was needed. Each jack (corner) has its own plug that is supposed to be plugged into a matching spot on the control board. The connector marked RT RE was plugged into the LE RE spot & vice versa. All this took the owner with LCI's phone help pretty much all day to get this straightened out. I only got involved when the owner came over to see about borrowing a meter. Ah! Helps to fully read a post. :-) G*d forbid that LCI would use slightly =different= connectors for each side to prevent this. Lyle Lyle
I know a few people that would try to fit a square peg in a round hole, confusing the with marks like RT RE or LE RE instead of Right Leg (RL) or Right Back Leg (RBL) may confuse them more Ugh !!! An it cost more money to add an extra letter or put something on it that owners could understand !!!
But with friends like you, nvguy, Edd, an many more owners on the form we all could got to work in a Camping World an
TNXS to Edd I know were the leveling sensor is an add this to my should know tool kit ...
Chuck
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Post by laknox on Nov 11, 2020 9:54:09 GMT -5
Ah! Helps to fully read a post. :-) G*d forbid that LCI would use slightly =different= connectors for each side to prevent this. Lyle Lyle
I know a few people that would try to fit a square peg in a round hole, confusing the with marks like RT RE or LE RE instead of Right Leg (RL) or Right Back Leg (RBL) may confuse them more Ugh !!! An it cost more money to add an extra letter or put something on it that owners could understand !!!
But with friends like you, nvguy, Edd, an many more owners on the form we all could got to work in a Camping World an
TNXS to Edd I know were the leveling sensor is an add this to my should know tool kit ...
Chuck
Yeah, I forgot we're talking about Elkhart and environs, where the RV industry will hire anyone with a heartbeat, and even some of them are questionable. I bet a bunch of us could descend on a CW with our folding chairs and just sit there and tell the "techs" what the problem is and how =we= fixed it right. :-) Lyle |
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Post by Chuck on Nov 13, 2020 12:08:08 GMT -5
Lyle If they are anything like my youngest son till he in his mid thirties he knew it all an would tell you he did Ugh !!! So looking at the RV techs the last time I was at a CW most of the techs look like they were just out of high school, so would they listen possibly not an more an likely tell a buch of old guy to drink their coffee or take a hike LOL ...
Of course there may be something in the air, I belong to the Washington State Good Sam an all of a sudden they are sending out very nice news letters, Good Sam is sending out what I call a large newspaper, the CEO of CW is talking monthly with the state Good Sam Directors an seems to be listening to them on problems with CW stores ... More than likely this is because sales have dropped do the crud an as well the word has gotten out how bad CW is an how the treat owners ....
Safe travel 
Chuck
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Post by Edd505 on Nov 13, 2020 21:52:27 GMT -5
Lyle If they are anything like my youngest son till he in his mid thirties he knew it all an would tell you he did Ugh !!! So looking at the RV techs the last time I was at a CW most of the techs look like they were just out of high school, so would they listen possibly not an more an likely tell a buch of old guy to drink their coffee or take a hike LOL ...
Of course there may be something in the air, I belong to the Washington State Good Sam an all of a sudden they are sending out very nice news letters, Good Sam is sending out what I call a large newspaper, the CEO of CW is talking monthly with the state Good Sam Directors an seems to be listening to them on problems with CW stores ... More than likely this is because sales have dropped do the crud an as well the word has gotten out how bad CW is an how the treat owners ....
Safe travel
Chuck
Must just be WA this is the first I've heard of this, I do have the GS card for the camping discount, use a couple time most years and it pays for it self. Buying from CW - No only if I can not find another RV supply store. |
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Post by Chuck on Nov 26, 2020 16:45:54 GMT -5
Lyle If they are anything like my youngest son till he in his mid thirties he knew it all an would tell you he did Ugh !!! So looking at the RV techs the last time I was at a CW most of the techs look like they were just out of high school,
so would they listen possibly not an more an likely tell a buch of old guy to drink their coffee or take a hike LOL ...
Of course there may be something in the air, I belong to the Washington State Good Sam an all of a sudden they are sending out very nice news letters, Good Sam is sending out what I call a large newspaper, the CEO of CW
is talking monthly with the state Good Sam Directors an seems to be listening to them on problems with CW stores ...
More than likely this is because sales have dropped do the crud an as well the word has gotten out how bad CW
is an how the treat owners ....
Safe travel
Chuck
Must just be WA this is the first I've heard of this, I do have the GS card for the camping discount, use a couple time most years and it pays for it self. Buying from CW - No only if I can not find another RV supply store.
Not sure Edd, I know that they have set up dispalys in Oregon, Washington, Idaho in CW stores an they claim per some of the stuff I'm getting nation wide, but new perint can say anything as we all know LOL
Chuck
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Post by laknox on Nov 30, 2020 11:01:24 GMT -5
Maybe Emperor Marcus is actually listening to some of his execs that something needs to be done about CW, or they won't be able to fund the NASCAR Truck series any more because they're bleeding cash.  I still would never buy from them, other than parts/supplies that I couldn't get anywhere else quickly. Lyle |
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Post by Edd505 on Nov 30, 2020 21:37:42 GMT -5
Maybe Emperor Marcus is actually listening to some of his execs that something needs to be done about CW, or they won't be able to fund the NASCAR Truck series any more because they're bleeding cash. I still would never buy from them, other than parts/supplies that I couldn't get anywhere else quickly. Lyle Like Lyle said other than convenience, I may stroll through and see if the attitudes changed. |
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Post by Chuck on Dec 11, 2020 18:10:56 GMT -5
We belong to the Good Sam's Camping club of Washington State now, we use to belong to a Good Sam Camping Club that was part of the overall Washington State Good Sams but the disbanded ... I believe the stuff we are getting is part of the Washington State Good Sams Camping Club an not just Good Sams ....
Chuck
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Post by Edd505 on Dec 11, 2020 21:16:51 GMT -5
Washington State Good Sams Camping Club?? Thought GS was a national organization not state.
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Post by jfspry58 on Dec 15, 2020 15:08:43 GMT -5
That's good to know. Ours always ends up a little nose down after it finishes leveling. I usually just raise the landing gear jacks a little and it does the trick but a couple of times that's raised one or two tires off the ground. They say that's not good but at least the trailer's level. As soon as it warms up a little, I'll check it out. Don't really want to crawl around in the snow.  Thanks Edd! Jay |
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Post by Edd505 on Dec 15, 2020 19:59:48 GMT -5
That's good to know. Ours always ends up a little nose down after it finishes leveling. I usually just raise the landing gear jacks a little and it does the trick but a couple of times that's raised one or two tires off the ground. They say that's not good but at least the trailer's level. As soon as it warms up a little, I'll check it out. Don't really want to crawl around in the snow. Thanks Edd! Jay You may need to reset the zero pint, LCI speak for level, check your manual. I helped a guy earlier this year in a new Jayco zero his but his touch pad was different than mine, had to check his manual. |
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Post by jfspry58 on Dec 16, 2020 16:55:05 GMT -5
That's good to know. Ours always ends up a little nose down after it finishes leveling. I usually just raise the landing gear jacks a little and it does the trick but a couple of times that's raised one or two tires off the ground. They say that's not good but at least the trailer's level. As soon as it warms up a little, I'll check it out. Don't really want to crawl around in the snow. Thanks Edd! Jay You may need to reset the zero pint, LCI speak for level, check your manual. I helped a guy earlier this year in a new Jayco zero his but his touch pad was different than mine, had to check his manual. Thanks Edd, I'll check that as well. A few weeks ago, we were camping with our son and his family and I noticed his Montana had a different touch pad than mine too. Mine has fewer buttons. |
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Post by jfspry58 on Dec 16, 2020 18:06:16 GMT -5
You may need to reset the zero pint, LCI speak for level, check your manual. I helped a guy earlier this year in a new Jayco zero his but his touch pad was different than mine, had to check his manual. Thanks Edd, I'll check that as well. A few weeks ago, we were camping with our son and his family and I noticed his Montana had a different touch pad than mine too. Mine has fewer buttons. I just looked. Mine is the Ground Control 3.0 which has the smaller touch pad with less buttons. I also have the LCI One Control touch screen inside and the phone app. After doing some research, I think resetting the zero point will indeed fix all my issues. Thanks again for the suggestion. Jay |
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Post by Edd505 on Dec 16, 2020 22:19:17 GMT -5
Thanks Edd, I'll check that as well. A few weeks ago, we were camping with our son and his family and I noticed his Montana had a different touch pad than mine too. Mine has fewer buttons. I just looked. Mine is the Ground Control 3.0 which has the smaller touch pad with less buttons. I also have the LCI One Control touch screen inside and the phone app. After doing some research, I think resetting the zero point will indeed fix all my issues. Thanks again for the suggestion. Jay That's the reason we have these forums, share info. As one member said a while back "no one is as smart as all of us" and that indeed is true. Travel safe -Edd |
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Post by laknox on Dec 17, 2020 10:05:49 GMT -5
Since I have the JT Strongarms on my rig, I'll let it level itself, then raise the nose a touch, tighten down the JTs, then relevel. When I've =not= done this, I feel there's more "wiggle" than when I do.
Lyle
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Post by Chuck on Dec 20, 2020 15:09:56 GMT -5
Washington State Good Sams Camping Club?? Thought GS was a national organization not state. Edd your correct, it is a national organization but there is Good Same camping chapters under the national in allot of the States... In our State there is a number of small Good Sam Camping chapters that you can belong to an most camp together once a month throughout the spring, summer an fall months ...
Safe travels
Chuck
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Post by Edd505 on Dec 20, 2020 21:39:56 GMT -5
New Mexico Good Sam has ceased operations as of July 31, 2020, and is no longer affiliated with Good Sam.
The Good Sam Chapters have new names and have migrated to NMRVing.com on 7/31/2020.
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Post by jfspry58 on Jan 6, 2021 9:40:29 GMT -5
Since I have the JT Strongarms on my rig, I'll let it level itself, then raise the nose a touch, tighten down the JTs, then relevel. When I've =not= done this, I feel there's more "wiggle" than when I do. Lyle Lyle, how well do you like the JT Strongarms on your rig? My wife is always complaining about ours moving a lot but to me it doesn't move nearly as much as our old rig did. Jay |
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Post by laknox on Jan 6, 2021 10:50:06 GMT -5
Since I have the JT Strongarms on my rig, I'll let it level itself, then raise the nose a touch, tighten down the JTs, then relevel. When I've =not= done this, I feel there's more "wiggle" than when I do. Lyle Lyle, how well do you like the JT Strongarms on your rig? My wife is always complaining about ours moving a lot but to me it doesn't move nearly as much as our old rig did. Jay I really like them; sure wish I'd had them on my old rig. Only downside, and it's minor, to having the 4-pt system, is that you don't have the Strongarms on the rearmost stabilizing jacks like you do on a non-auto-level system. As it is, there have been times I forgot to tighten the JTs after leveling, and it took a while to notice, it's that much more stable just on the 4-pt. When I do tighten them down, it =is= noticeable. Personally, after leveling, I'll raise the front end manually a touch, maybe 1/2", tighten the JTs, then drop it back down, again manually; I don't auto level. While I love the 4-pt system, I feel it could be better. One thing that I've noticed is that it almost =always= levels UPWARDS and almost never levels DOWNWARD. IMO, my rig can end up inches higher than necessary because of this. I wish there was a way to just tell the controller to "drop 2" on all jacks at once. The street in front of my house has a fairly high crown, and the curb side wheels are =always= off the ground and I have to add blocks under the RR jack or it will run out of stroke. At the same time, the street side wheels are also fairly well lunweighted. All because it continually re-levels UPWARDS. Lyle |
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I still would never buy from them, other than parts/supplies that I couldn't get anywhere else quickly.
Thanks Edd!