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Post by cavu218 on Jun 3, 2020 8:57:37 GMT -5
Hello all, My family and I just purchased our first Travel Trailer (2020 Escape E160RBT) and I'm looking to see what items everyone recommends as a necessity. My wife and I have started a list of items to pick up: - Sewer Hose Kit
- Voltage Protector
- Water pressure regulator w/gauge
- Andersen leveling kit
- Water hose (what length do you suggest?)
- Propane Tank Gauge
- Water Filter
- Tool Kit (suggestions?)
- Tank deodorizers/chemicals
- Rapid dissolve TP
These are the items we have listed so far and I'm sure we're missing some things. I appreciate everyone's thoughts/comments!
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Post by lynnmor on Jun 3, 2020 11:45:07 GMT -5
Hello, I'll start with a few things on your list.
2. Have a voltmeter that is easily monitored, a "Voltage Protector" can mean anything from a simple surge protector to a high priced EMS, but you need to know that voltage below 105 can damage your air conditioner.
3. Do not buy the barrel shaped cheap regulators, with or without a gauge.
4. You will have mixed results with the Andersen, carry some boards, I use nothing but boards.
5. If you have a black tank flusher, have a dedicated colored hose for that. Depending where you camp, you may need plenty of potable water hose, I suggest a 25ft and a 50 ft. 1/2" hose has less bulk and it carries enough for me.
6. There is no such thing that is accurate, forget the LP gauge.
7. The inline filters are convenient, but know that they need to be flushed right before use, new or used. Store a used filter for only short times and connect a hose to both ends. Likewise, connect your water hose ends together. You can use a whole house filter but they are bulky.
8. Carry tools that you know how to use, be sure that you have a jack and a lug wrench that fits the wheels AND spare tire.
9. Many don't use toilet chemicals, I do out of respect for others. The original Thetford powder is fine. Gray tanks can use a squirt of dish soap each trip.
10. Use whatever you use at home.
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Post by cavu218 on Jun 3, 2020 12:24:52 GMT -5
Hello, I'll start with a few things on your list. 2. Have a voltmeter that is easily monitored, a "Voltage Protector" can mean anything from a simple surge protector to a high priced EMS, but you need to know that voltage below 105 can damage your air conditioner. 3. Do not buy the barrel shaped cheap regulators, with or without a gauge. 4. You will have mixed results with the Andersen, carry some boards, I use nothing but boards. 5. If you have a black tank flusher, have a dedicated colored hose for that. Depending where you camp, you may need plenty of potable water hose, I suggest a 25ft and a 50 ft. 1/2" hose has less bulk and it carries enough for me. 6. There is no such thing that is accurate, forget the LP gauge. 7. The inline filters are convenient, but know that they need to be flushed right before use, new or used. Store a used filter for only short times and connect a hose to both ends. Likewise, connect your water hose ends together. You can use a whole house filter but they are bulky. 8. Carry tools that you know how to use, be sure that you have a jack and a lug wrench that fits the wheels AND spare tire. 9. Many don't use toilet chemicals, I do out or respect for others. The original Thetford powder is fine. Gray tanks can use a squirt of dish soap each trip. 10. Use whatever you use at home. Thanks! Appreciate it Lynnmor
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Post by bluegrass on Jun 3, 2020 15:09:41 GMT -5
#9. There are several toilet chemicals on the market. I don't think you will find any camper/RVer that will tell you any one product will keep your sensors clean...you just have to live with it, it won't be long before you get bad readings. With that said, buy a product you feel is the best....we use Power Blue, I believe, and like it.
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Post by zanderman on Jun 3, 2020 15:17:12 GMT -5
Hello all, My family and I just purchased our first Travel Trailer (2020 Escape E160RBT) and I'm looking to see what items everyone recommends as a necessity. My wife and I have started a list of items to pick up: - Sewer Hose Kit
- Voltage Protector
- Water pressure regulator w/gauge
- Andersen leveling kit
- Water hose (what length do you suggest?)
- Propane Tank Gauge
- Water Filter
- Tool Kit (suggestions?)
- Tank deodorizers/chemicals
- Rapid dissolve TP
These are the items we have listed so far and I'm sure we're missing some things. I appreciate everyone's thoughts/comments!
I'm a noob starting off as well... The RV dealer gave us a 'starter kit' with a cheap sewer hose and water pressure regulator, so I expect to replace both of those. For the sewer hose, I'm looking at a combination of Rhino Extreme (probably 2x 10' sections) and an attachment for flushing it out with a garden hose (vs just squirting the garden hose inside the sewer hose - yuck). You may also want to add a sewer host support like the Camco 20ft (43051) to give you a nice slope to the dump connection. Some places require it. The starter kit also came with a 25' water hose which I think will be just fine. I did purchase a Camco 40043 water filter and flex line... may go with a better filter on next go-round but at least I have the short flex hose protector. For drinking water, I'm actually considering a hang-bag with a Sawyer water filter like we do when back-packing. This really gives you good drinking water no matter the source, and the Sawyer filter will protect you from bacteria and other contaminants and can be backflushed. I bought both the Andersen and Camco 44423 leveler systems to evaluate and kept the Camco. I have a small single-axle trailer (3500 lbs), both sets are rated at 30,000 lbs, so I went with the lighter Camco. I also bought a bag of 10 Tri-Lynx leveling blocks, mostly to put under the corner jacks and the tongue jack. IMO, wood weighs too much for my small trailer rig where I am trying to conserve weight any way I can. I think the biggest questions I have are around water tank maintenance (fresh/gray/black). Since I have a brand-new unit, I need to sanitize my fresh water lines with diluted bleach solution, sucking it in via the tap on the water pump and making sure it goes through all of my water lines. We really don't expect to be directly drinking our fresh water on-board as we will either carry on 2.5 gal jugs of store-bought water or filtering it through the Sawyer hang bag. We will reduce our grey water intake by short showers or washing dishes in a big bowl. Black tank takes a little more thought / care as the guidance I've read is... - flush the toilet with a couple gallons each time to make sure the solids make it all the way to the black tank (if necessary).
(Some folks even have a policy of no #2 on-board... use the CG facilities for that, lol) - use the black tank flusher to rinse the tank as a final step before you close things up
- use the grey water dump to clean out your sewer hose (on my trailer I have 2 grey water tanks and only the rear one shares an outlet with the black tank), and as I said I have an attachment for flushing it out with a garden hose before storing it away.
- add a few gallons of fresh water in the black tank with cleaner sloshing around while you're driving home (and maybe also your grey tank)
As for tools... I already carry a few of the basics in my tow vehicle anyway, but I'm going to add a small tool bag to the RV. One set of tools I'm going to bring are battery-powered Ryboi tools - impact wrench and tire pump. I'll use a 3/4" socket on the impact wrench to quickly raise/lower the corner jacks, and the tire pump for obvious reasons. I'll also have a screwdriver with various adapters that match the various screws on the RV, a hammer, slip-joint Channel-Lok pliers, gorilla tape, electrical tape, a few pieces of 14-gauge wire if I need to make electrical repairs, fuses, grease rags and wipes. You may also want to put together a first-aid kit of whatever level of paranoia or preparedness you desire. Take it all with a grain of salt, as I'm right where you are and trying to think of everything and run through in my head what I'm going to need to know how to do and have the tools to do it. But, I do know how to make repairs, change a tire, diagnose electrical problems, and have done a fair amount of camping already so I can wrap my head around various scenarios that may arise.
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Post by cavu218 on Jun 3, 2020 16:21:49 GMT -5
zandermanThanks for all the input. I was planning on the 20ft Rhino hose kit (39742)and it seems to be the route to go as well as the Camco hose supports (43051). For the water filter we were looking at Camco TastePure (40043), same as you. Our unit is new as well and we'll have to sanitize the tanks. Overall very similar thoughts as you with tools and the other items, although we will most likely use either the water from the filtered system or bring drinking water. Our TT GVW is 3,500# as well so I am also trying to keep the weight down. We pick it up tomorrow and plan to hit the road soon. I'll keep everyone posted on how it goes and the equipment we choose, I'm sure I'm going to make some rookie mistakes but I'm hoping leaning on the expertise of the people on this forum will help me minimize those a bit .
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Post by nvguy on Jun 3, 2020 22:02:20 GMT -5
Quick tip regarding the manual crank jacks- don't get carried away with the impact driver when using them, as you can bend things pretty easily. Those jack are for stabilizing not actual "leveling". Having worked at an RV dealer I was able to try all manner of black tank chems. I found the old school Aqua chem stuff works best..for me. Water is your friend in regard to the black tank- flush freely, not the place to conserve. Pick up a 30A to 20A-(Std household outlet) adapter. Works in a pinch, you wont be able to use your A/C but you will have power for a TV and other lightweight electrical loads.
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Post by johnr on Jun 4, 2020 7:24:15 GMT -5
Have extra rubber hose washers and a roll of water pipe tape. A 25' or 50' length of coax cable because it'll be much cheaper to buy at a regular store than finding you want one at the first campground you go to that has cable. A level for setting up (I use just a little magnetic bullet level). I agree with lynnmor who said boards over expensive leveling blocks, I have a lot of 2"x8" boards cut up to put under jacks and also longer pieces to drive on that fit under the tires. A couple nice lawn chairs.
There's a lot your going to find that you want or need as you start camping. Your first few trips, try to stay closer to home so that you can make a run or two there if needed.
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Post by zanderman on Jun 4, 2020 9:36:19 GMT -5
zanderman Thanks for all the input. I was planning on the 20ft Rhino hose kit (39742)and it seems to be the route to go as well as the Camco hose supports (43051). For the water filter we were looking at Camco TastePure (40043), same as you. Our unit is new as well and we'll have to sanitize the tanks. Overall very similar thoughts as you with tools and the other items, although we will most likely use either the water from the filtered system or bring drinking water. Our TT GVW is 3,500# as well so I am also trying to keep the weight down. We pick it up tomorrow and plan to hit the road soon. I'll keep everyone posted on how it goes and the equipment we choose, I'm sure I'm going to make some rookie mistakes but I'm hoping leaning on the expertise of the people on this forum will help me minimize those a bit . Interested in what you are pulling it with... Do you have a weight distribution hitch / sway bar? My RV dealer set me up with a Fastway e2 with square 600lb trunnion bars... So far very happy with it. I'm also shopping for a hitch coupler lock. We ended up getting a fairly decent one but spendy... AMPLock U-BRP2516 for $265.
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Post by lynnmor on Jun 4, 2020 11:51:30 GMT -5
My RV dealer set me up with a Fastway e2 with square 600lb trunnion bars... So far very happy with it. I'm also shopping for a hitch coupler lock. We ended up getting a fairly decent one but spendy... AMPLock U-BRP2516 for $265. I simply put the ball back in the coupler and use a padlock thru the coupler latch.
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Post by cavu218 on Jun 4, 2020 15:14:13 GMT -5
zanderman Thanks for all the input. I was planning on the 20ft Rhino hose kit (39742)and it seems to be the route to go as well as the Camco hose supports (43051). For the water filter we were looking at Camco TastePure (40043), same as you. Our unit is new as well and we'll have to sanitize the tanks. Overall very similar thoughts as you with tools and the other items, although we will most likely use either the water from the filtered system or bring drinking water. Our TT GVW is 3,500# as well so I am also trying to keep the weight down. We pick it up tomorrow and plan to hit the road soon. I'll keep everyone posted on how it goes and the equipment we choose, I'm sure I'm going to make some rookie mistakes but I'm hoping leaning on the expertise of the people on this forum will help me minimize those a bit . Interested in what you are pulling it with... Do you have a weight distribution hitch / sway bar? My RV dealer set me up with a Fastway e2 with square 600lb trunnion bars... So far very happy with it. I'm also shopping for a hitch coupler lock. We ended up getting a fairly decent one but spendy... AMPLock U-BRP2516 for $265. So we purchased a 2017 Toyota Highlander XLE (wife's car) back in February and we had the dealer put on a hitch when we bought it (Draw-Tite Max-Frame Trailer Hitch Receiver - Custom Fit - Class III - 2" Item # 76156). My wife decided she wanted to get a TT back in early May, so we started researching what TT it could tow. I've spent hours coming the "interweb" and found good and bad for using the Highlander, but since we have it we're going to give it a shot. It's roomy enough for the 3 kids and us (5 total) is the biggest reason. The E160RBT is also 1,500# below the max towing weight of 5k when fully loaded. The hitch on the TV is not rated for a WDH so we are going to see how it goes without one. I figure we can get a sway control kit if we find it necessary. For the brake controller we are using the Curt Echo (Curt Echo Wireless Trailer Brake Controller - 1 to 2 Axles - Proportional Item # C51180). I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this all works, but if I need to get a truck in the next year i wouldn't be too disappointed . We haven't thought about the coupler lock, but now that you said it I may have to add it to the list.
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Post by Edd505 on Jun 4, 2020 20:41:30 GMT -5
Have extra rubber hose washers and a roll of water pipe tape. A 25' or 50' length of coax cable because it'll be much cheaper to buy at a regular store than finding you want one at the first campground you go to that has cable. A level for setting up (I use just a little magnetic bullet level). I agree with lynnmor who said boards over expensive leveling blocks, I have a lot of 2"x8" boards cut up to put under jacks and also longer pieces to drive on that fit under the tires. A couple nice lawn chairs. There's a lot your going to find that you want or need as you start camping. Your first few trips, try to stay closer to home so that you can make a run or two there if needed. I'm for the Anderson's, used them until I got this 5W with auto level. The Anderson's were the next best thing to the auto level but it takes a little getting used to if you have used boards before, you move inches not feet. I found mounting a level like this on the front helped as I could see it from the truck. Get as level as you can side to side, then use the Anderson's. Front to back leveling a snap with the front jacks & rear stabilizers. Most are posting equipment to put in. Camp in your drive a day or two and see what you need inside, easy to run in the house or make a list for a Wally World run. Towels, food, pots & pans, salt& pepper, forks, spoons, knives, plates, cups, you got the idea.
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Post by cavu218 on Jun 4, 2020 21:44:09 GMT -5
I should be picking up the TT tomorrow if everything goes as planned. So far we have purchased the following:
1. Andersen leveler with chock. I'll use some wood for the stabilizers and the hitch to start and see how that goes. 2. Camco 55301 30 Amp RV Power Defender Voltage Protector/Monitor with Integrated Surge Protection, Designed with Easy To Use PowerGrip Handles 3. Camco Brass Water Pressure Regulator with Gauge- Helps Protect RV Plumbing and Hoses from High-Pressure City Water - Easy Read Gauge, Lead Free (40064) 4. Camco 40043 TastePure RV/Marine Water Filter with Flexible Hose Protector | Protects Against Bacteria | Reduces Bad Taste, Odors, Chlorine and Sediment in Drinking Water 5. Camco 25 Feet 25ft Premium Drinking Water Lead and BPA Free, Anti-Kink Design, 20% Thicker Than Standard Hoses 5/8" Inside Diameter (22833). 6. Camco 20ft (43051) Sidewinder RV Sewer Hose Support, Made From Sturdy Lightweight Plastic, Won't Creep Closed, Holds Hoses In Place - No Need For Straps 7. Camco 20' (39742) RhinoFLEX 20-Foot RV Sewer Hose Kit, Swivel Transparent Elbow with 4-in-1 Dump Station Fitting-Storage Caps Included 8. Camco Propane Gauge/Leak Detector, Type 1 Connection for Gas Grills, RVs and Boats - 59023 9. Walex TOI-91799 Porta-Pak Holding Tank Deodorizer Drop-Ins, Sunglow Scent (Pack of 10) 10. BAL 3/4 Hex Extended Reach Drill Adapter (use this with my cordless to quickly work the stabilizers) 11. 1 ft. 12/3 15 Amp Male to 30 Amp Female Recreational Vehicle Adapter Cord (to plug in at home for the fridge to get it cold before we start any trips) 12. BougeRV RV Flying Insect Screen RV Furnace Vent Cover RV Bug Screen Covers Water Heater Screen Stainless Steel Mesh for RVs/Campers/Trailers (3Pack)
All of that was off Amazon except for items 1, 10, and 11 which we purchased from the dealer.
We do already have quite a few items such as dishes, towels, etc... We have tent camped for years and will now just use that for the TT. I'm sure with the TT we'll find items we will use and some we won't need anymore, looking forward to getting that all sorted out over time.
We're going to take Edd505's suggestion and set up in the driveway to see what we feel we'll need initially. We plan on going out locally with it next weekend and will most likely stick close to home for the first few times to get used to it and break it in (johnr read my mind).
I appreciate everyones input and comments and look forward to our family adventures with the TT. I'll keep everyone posted on our outings and I'm sure I'll be asking a bunch of questions, but how else are we supposed to learn 😁.
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Post by nvguy on Jun 4, 2020 23:11:14 GMT -5
Good idea to set up and camp in the driveway- or really really close to home. Practice the whole routine, hook up water and everything, even try cooking something. Better to find you need a spatula or more bowls in the driveway. I should have warned you, but aside from Harleys and Jeeps nothing has more accessories & stuff available than an RV, so hang on. And please feel free to ask any questions, this site is completely attitude free.
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Post by zanderman on Jun 5, 2020 11:15:31 GMT -5
Good idea to set up and camp in the driveway- or really really close to home. Practice the whole routine, hook up water and everything, even try cooking something. Better to find you need a spatula or more bowls in the driveway. I should have warned you, but aside from Harleys and Jeeps nothing has more accessories & stuff available than an RV, so hang on. And please feel free to ask any questions, this site is completely attitude free. We have a couple RV parks within 10 miles of the house, so I'm planning to make a 2-night trial run next weekend. We've had ours in the driveway for exactly 1 week now and have only had snacks/drinks in it so far. Only hooked up to the 15A garage outlet atm, so can't run the A/C without adding a soft-start circuit.
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Post by Chuck on Jun 6, 2020 15:14:46 GMT -5
A couple more comments an I'm sure your overwhelmed but now As stated a really, really good water pressure regulator goes a long way in protecting your trailer !!! 25' water hose is not enough, get another 25ft extra an a water hose "Y" connector ... Some camp grounds or State parks you may have to share a water outlet !!! You can never have enough sewer hose, older RV parks have the sewer connections in the back of the sites not the middle as the newer parks have ... Our 5th wheel has the sewer outlet on the side of the trailer an being that it is well over 20 some feet to the back of the trailer a sewer inlet may be another 10ft behind our trailer at some parks, thus 30ft of sewer hose is needed Ugh !!! Allot of camp grounds an state parks require you to have sewer hose support, they get very testy if you do not have one an may ask you to leave if you don't listen or ignore their rules ....
Camping in your driveway for a few days is a very, very good idea, you will find that you think your all setup an find that many, many multiple trips back to the house is in order ...
Hitching an un-hitching your trailer in the driveway is another very good idea, thus you get into a
retinue of setting up an packing up, make a list or check sheet for each to you get very use to doing such... Even after many years of hooking an un-hook I still every so often catch myself missing something such as putting up the steps even though I thought I had doing my walk around I found I had not Ugh !!!!
The above also brings up a point, every time you get ready to leave a camp site walk around your trailer, check everything, look not only along the side but under an on top ... Every time you stop for, fuel, lunch on the road walk around your rig, check everything an make sure your hitch it still hitched, i put a lock on my 5th wheel handle thus it can not be pulled to un-hitch my rig ...
Safe Travels ....
Chuck
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Post by cavu218 on Jun 7, 2020 16:18:30 GMT -5
We'll we finally picked up our TT yesterday and towed it home. We have it set up in our driveway and are testing it out and getting everything set up. My wife is finding creative storage solutions and I've been creating checklists for the interior, exterior, hitching/unhitching, and arrival/departure from camp. Thanks again for all the help and comments. We have definitely learned a lot from everyone and will be picking up additional supplies (i.e. another hose and extra Rhino hoses too). We'll keep it set up in the driveway and we'll be on our first trip next weekend to a nearby campground. I'll keep everyone posted on our experience (good/bad/and embarrassing).
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Post by Edd505 on Jun 7, 2020 19:29:15 GMT -5
We'll we finally picked up our TT yesterday and towed it home. We have it set up in our driveway and are testing it out and getting everything set up. My wife is finding creative storage solutions and I've been creating checklists for the interior, exterior, hitching/unhitching, and arrival/departure from camp. Thanks again for all the help and comments. We have definitely learned a lot from everyone and will be picking up additional supplies (i.e. another hose and extra Rhino hoses too). We'll keep it set up in the driveway and we'll be on our first trip next weekend to a nearby campground. I'll keep everyone posted on our experience (good/bad/and embarrassing). Don't be a friend to ask questions in the camp ground, people are very helpful. Just last year I was registering and the guy in front of me was saying he didn't have a clue he had just picked up a new 200K class A. Helped him hook up, made lists of what else he needed to buy, and had a great week visiting. Got a call a few weeks latter, when he said I forgot what you said. Met several members of this forum at the last two rallys and communicate off the board. We have visited in TX and have plans to meet some later in the year. Might be surprised & make new friends and in the future the new RVers can ask you.
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Post by midlotexan on Jun 8, 2020 19:41:36 GMT -5
I would suggest a complete set of quick couplers for all your hose fittings. Blast furnace hot or icy cold the last thing I want to do is fight with a hose that doesn't want to screw on. I bought a better quality set with our last trailer and moved them all over to this one. To me it is just quicker and easier. Good luck Kirt
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Post by Edd505 on Jun 8, 2020 21:49:18 GMT -5
I would suggest a complete set of quick couplers for all your hose fittings. Blast furnace hot or icy cold the last thing I want to do is fight with a hose that doesn't want to screw on. I bought a better quality set with our last trailer and moved them all over to this one. To me it is just quicker and easier. Good luck Kirt They looked good and DW sometimes has trouble getting them tight, I bought a couple sets to give them a try, glad to hear they work.
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