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Post by wingnut on Sept 9, 2019 14:47:33 GMT -5
Just curious if anyone else out there thinks the new design of the steps is stupid? I think they're called sure step or something, and they go inside the front door. Well there is nothing about them that is good. We ordered our camper and told them not to install them, and bought the regular steps that fold up under the door. The dealer will install them for us. What do you all think?
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Post by lynnmor on Sept 9, 2019 15:37:10 GMT -5
Just curious if anyone else out there thinks the new design of the steps is stupid? I think they're called sure step or something, and they go inside the front door. Well there is nothing about them that is good. We ordered our camper and told them not to install them, and bought the regular steps that fold up under the door. The dealer will install them for us. What do you all think? I am with you but the industry is going the other way. It is so simple for the manufacturer to zap in a few screws and call it done. |
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Post by kaboom on Sept 9, 2019 17:03:49 GMT -5
I installed the MorRyde Step-Above and the storage box in place of the OEM steps.
They do require extra room to extend. So picking a parking spot with a little extra room is needed. They also require having the trailer fairly level before deploying them. If your going to unhook and level, then you need to do that before putting the steps down otherwise damage to the steps and or RV could occur. I sweep them off before folding them up, Which helps with the dirt and debris issue. I have only had one site that required a single "lego" pad to get the steps level, (Ran out of leg adjustment).
The DW and I both have physical disabilities and these steps have been wonderful. We also have the hand rail option. Getting in and out of the RV is now alot less painful. Oh and our English bulldog likes them better than the old steps. 😁
They do require more room and thought before opening. They definitely aren't for everyone.
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Post by lynnmor on Sept 9, 2019 18:53:26 GMT -5
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Post by laknox on Sept 9, 2019 22:57:36 GMT -5
Just curious if anyone else out there thinks the new design of the steps is stupid? I think they're called sure step or something, and they go inside the front door. Well there is nothing about them that is good. We ordered our camper and told them not to install them, and bought the regular steps that fold up under the door. The dealer will install them for us. What do you all think? I totally agree. One of the most stupid things that the RV industry has done, IMO. Deal breaker for me unless a delete option is available. Lyle |
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Post by nvguy on Sept 10, 2019 0:06:15 GMT -5
I can see some stability improvement over the folding steps, but I wouldn't want them simply because I couldn't use them when my coach is at home, my RV space is narrow.
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Post by johnr on Sept 10, 2019 6:48:12 GMT -5
I installed the MorRyde Step-Above and the storage box in place of the OEM steps. They do require extra room to extend. So picking a parking spot with a little extra room is needed. They also require having the trailer fairly level before deploying them. If your going to unhook and level, then you need to do that before putting the steps down otherwise damage to the steps and or RV could occur. I sweep them off before folding them up, Which helps with the dirt and debris issue. I have only had one site that required a single "lego" pad to get the steps level, (Ran out of leg adjustment). The DW and I both have physical disabilities and these steps have been wonderful. We also have the hand rail option. Getting in and out of the RV is now alot less painful. Oh and our English bulldog likes them better than the old steps. 😁 They do require more room and thought before opening. They definitely aren't for everyone. How much room do they actually need? |
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Post by capemayal on Sept 10, 2019 7:13:34 GMT -5
I have the mor-ryde version, that we had put on by the dealer when we bought our 380. We kept the regular steps just in case.
For me the steps are great. I had the handrail installed on mine too. That handrail is a great thing IMHO.
I doubt that K-Z made the steps. They're probably made by Lippert just like most of the running gear in RV's these days.
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Post by milpol4523 on Sept 10, 2019 10:24:21 GMT -5
hate them. we have them on a second trailer and utterly hate them.
have to have the trailer perfectly level and be aware of where the steps are going to land feet wise. already buckled the bottom of the door 2 times and had to end up digging down for the steps because even though the trailer is level the ground beside teh trailer is not always the same.
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Post by kaboom on Sept 10, 2019 10:29:43 GMT -5
Johnr. I still have the original steps into the garage area. They extend 25" from the side of RV. The MorRyde steps extend 51" so just over twice the distance.
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Post by capemayal on Sept 10, 2019 11:33:28 GMT -5
I've used the steps without being level and still hooked up. just have to be careful when you go in and out. If not level the pitch of the steps probably won't be that good.
If need be, on soft ground, put something under them to keep them from sinking, just like the rig
But, in the end - could I do without them? Sure. Would I? No. But, that's me.
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Post by Edd505 on Sept 10, 2019 14:03:55 GMT -5
The issue that folks have with the old style steps is movement. I spent the past weekend correcting the shoddy install of both sets of my steps. When finished, movement was reduced. KZ adds a 2" x 3" tubing welded to the frame bottom for step mounting, that is too small because the bottom hole for the steps flange can't be used. In addition, the tubing is welded on too far back and there is a gap. Of course the 1/4" self-drilling screws are too small and cannot be tightened because of that gap. I added brackets and shims to allow use of the bolt holes. Nice work!! |
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Post by bluegrass2 on Sept 10, 2019 19:16:23 GMT -5
Our MOR-RYDE steps have leveling adjustments on each leg, simple to adjust for uneven terrain. We really like the steps, very secure and no need for an additional step-stool for drop-offs.
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Post by capemayal on Sept 10, 2019 19:25:43 GMT -5
Bluegrass2 I completely forgot about them. I have adjusted them in the past.
The only thing I have to keep remembering is to make sure the doors are 100% open, or the screen door frame will get scraped.
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Post by Chuck on Sept 13, 2019 18:30:54 GMT -5
Well I have to say we now have had them for over two years an still love them as much as the 1st day we used them ... We have never had but one time that we were close to not using them  but I back up about two feet away from a tree an they were usable ... Also the people whom state that they get dirt in there trailer don't shake them before storing them into their trailer, we get maybe a few peace's of minor dirt an that's it ... We also at this years Kz rally installed the strut assist, I can now lift the steps with one finger, amazing, so now we have the grab handle an strut assist along with a new feature LCI bought out that closes the screen door just like in your home ... I agree you have to open both the doors all the way to put them up or down but to me that's minor, you also have to adjust the legs to make sure the steps are all the way down on the thresh hold but with the new strut assist it's a peace of cake because you don't have to even hold them up while adjusting the legs to the height you need ... I will say every person I have talked to with the new four step MoRyde Steps with strut assist which are now coming with all the newer 5th wheel in different brands love them ... This past couple of months while out in the country talking with different 5th wheel owners all stated that they wouldn't have a trailer without them. I myself didn't find one who wished they had the old steps, so I am surprised at the comments here, but hey, to each his own an I'm not going to throw rocks at anyone who wants something different, that's what makes the world go around  |
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Post by Stephen on Sept 21, 2019 6:51:49 GMT -5
We just had the MORryde 3 steps installed on our TT. The only thing we didn't add was the box, will purchase at the next KZ Rally in 2020.
Everyone has their own opinion but it has made entry into our TT for my wife so much easier in entering the TT which is allowing us to continue camping. Right now I see more positive then negative benefits using these steps, Just wished we knew about these before now.
As for having your unit level, I never park it without being level and jack stablelizers being used for the safety of the TT.
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Post by laknox on Sept 21, 2019 23:36:52 GMT -5
Went to a small "festival" in Prescott Valley today and Affinity RV had some rigs out. Several had these stupid steps, including a GD Solitude. I flat-out told the sales guy that this was one of the most stupid ideas that the industry has come up with and it would be a deal-breaker for any future sales, for me, no matter =which= brand. He suggested putting a Weather Tech mat inside the door to catch any dirt/drips. I countered that the TorkLift GloStep was a much better option. :-) When I said that I'd have to move my rig any time I wanted to access it while in storage, with the MorRyde steps, he had no answer for that.
Lyle
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Post by lynnmor on Sept 22, 2019 2:18:48 GMT -5
Went to a small "festival" in Prescott Valley today and Affinity RV had some rigs out. Several had these stupid steps, including a GD Solitude. I flat-out told the sales guy that this was one of the most stupid ideas that the industry has come up with and it would be a deal-breaker for any future sales, for me, no matter =which= brand. He suggested putting a Weather Tech mat inside the door to catch any dirt/drips. I countered that the TorkLift GloStep was a much better option. :-) When I said that I'd have to move my rig any time I wanted to access it while in storage, with the MorRyde steps, he had no answer for that. Lyle People are just getting soft, so we now have troublesome electric awnings, electric stabilizer jacks that don't stabilize and antennas that don't turn. Good luck telling anyone in the industry that the current fads are nonsense, they are only interested in selling junk to those in the majority. |
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Post by laknox on Sept 23, 2019 10:08:06 GMT -5
Went to a small "festival" in Prescott Valley today and Affinity RV had some rigs out. Several had these stupid steps, including a GD Solitude. I flat-out told the sales guy that this was one of the most stupid ideas that the industry has come up with and it would be a deal-breaker for any future sales, for me, no matter =which= brand. He suggested putting a Weather Tech mat inside the door to catch any dirt/drips. I countered that the TorkLift GloStep was a much better option. :-) When I said that I'd have to move my rig any time I wanted to access it while in storage, with the MorRyde steps, he had no answer for that. Lyle People are just getting soft, so we now have troublesome electric awnings, electric stabilizer jacks that don't stabilize and antennas that don't turn. Good luck telling anyone in the industry that the current fads are nonsense, they are only interested in selling junk to those in the majority. Y'know, I wouldn't =mind= having electric awnings if they were a lot more robust. Why should I give up my shade because there might be too much wind? I can only remember 1 time where I rolled up my awning due to wind, in the 13 years I owned my old Komfort. That was a 19-footer, too! Lyle |
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Post by Edd505 on Sept 23, 2019 11:53:08 GMT -5
Y'know, I wouldn't =mind= having electric awnings if they were a lot more robust. Why should I give up my shade because there might be too much wind? I can only remember 1 time where I rolled up my awning due to wind, in the 13 years I owned my old Komfort. That was a 19-footer, too! Lyle Electrics not the issue wind is, and they all need anchored in winds, electric or manual. (or brought in) |
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