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Post by 101stairborne on Feb 17, 2018 18:10:11 GMT -5
I have a Samsung residential refrigerator in my Durango Gold. The unit came with one battery for the inverter (dealer indicated this is all that is required). Is most everyone using the one battery or are most people using two batteries linked parallel.
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Post by ronc on Feb 17, 2018 20:43:16 GMT -5
I have the same residential refrigerator and I have two BIG AGM (210 amp hours each and 124 lbs. each) batteries. Mine are both 12v so they are connected in parallel. If you used two 6v batteries, they would need to be connected in series.<style></style>
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Post by 101stairborne on Feb 17, 2018 21:57:53 GMT -5
I have the same residential refrigerator and I have two BIG AGM (210 amp hours each) batteries. Mine are both 12v so they are connected in parallel. If you used two 6v batteries, they would need to be connected in series. Thanks for the response. I didn't think one battery was sufficient. Does your refrigerator stay cold when you are on a long trip. |
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Post by jetzen on Feb 18, 2018 9:35:04 GMT -5
I have 2, 12volt connected in parallel.
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Post by ifulltime on Feb 18, 2018 11:20:26 GMT -5
One of the first things I removed on my Durango was the 8 cu ft gas/electric fridge and replaced it with a 10 cu ft residential. When at the factory we asked if we could have it done when the trailer was built and they would not do it. I installed the fridge along with the batteries and inverter that I removed from my trade in. I run two group 27 12 volt batteries for the fridge inverter and a separate group 27 12 volt battery for the house 12 volt converter loads. We have pulled the trailer for 12 hours and the inverter batteries have always remained over 80 percent charge. If you have a separate house battery I would give a single battery a try on the fridge and see how it works. That is assuming you are only using it for a single day pull and will not be multiple days.unhooked from shore power or have solar. If you only have one battery for the entire trailer I would suggest adding at least one more and ideally isolating the house battery system from the inverter system.   |
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Post by Chuck on Feb 18, 2018 12:35:32 GMT -5
We have 2, 12volt deep cell batteries connected in parallel with a 18 CU FT 4-Door RV Refrigerator, keeps stuff frozen an cold while traveling no problem with on power no propane . The longest we have went is 8 hours without any problems, have never tried it overnight, but I believe it would work without any problems overnight an longer ... Safe Travels  Chuck |
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Post by 101stairborne on Feb 18, 2018 16:12:02 GMT -5
We have 2, 12volt deep cell batteries connected in parallel with a 18 CU FT 4-Door RV Refrigerator, keeps stuff frozen an cold while traveling no problem with on power no propane . The longest we have went is 8 hours without any problems, have never tried it overnight, but I believe it would work without any problems overnight an longer ... Safe Travels Chuck Thanks Chuck. I will be headed to the store soon to pick up the 2nd battery. |
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Post by Edd505 on Feb 18, 2018 19:22:06 GMT -5
Thanks Chuck. I will be headed to the store soon to pick up the 2nd battery. Make sure it's a deep cycle battery. |
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Post by ronc on Feb 19, 2018 17:24:14 GMT -5
One other comment ... don't mix battery types or sizes, or even batteries of greatly different age (over 1 year). They must be properly matched to work well together and share the load properly ... there will be issues charging them also if they are mismatched.
When you travel down the road, the truck's charging system will "help" the batteries in keeping the refrigerator running. So far, we've never had a problem. Chuck's comments about how long his refrigerator will stay cold when powered off ... is not representative of the performance of a residential refrigerator. Chuck's is an RV refrigerator and they have much better insulation ... because the technology they use isn't as efficient so they overcome this by having a better insulation package.. So a residential refrigerator isn't as well insulated. Not wanting to start an argument, but just suffice it to say that a residential refrigerator is not as well insulated as an RV refrigerator.
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Post by Chuck on Feb 20, 2018 12:01:38 GMT -5
Wow looking around at F3080FLF's I saw a 2017 on RV Trader with full body paint, thought that the G384RLT was the
only one Kz did full body paint on ....
Anyway back to the frig, can believe I did something right for once, was sort of bummed out that we had the
RV frig an not the residential refrigerator... Looking on line I could not fine the price difference between
the two even thought I thought possibly the residential refrigerator would be higher priced do to the fact
you needed a bigger inverter ...
As stated we do not run the frig on either propane or power while traveling even thought as Ron stated the
truck provides the power to the trailer during travels the frig is turn off ...
I believe the dealer was either trying to save money on a short cut with only one battery or just didn't
know that you should have two ... That's ashamed that either may be the case !!!
Safe Travels an don't forget about the Kz Rally in August near the factory !!!
Chuck
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Post by rvdude on Feb 20, 2018 23:39:20 GMT -5
The rv refrigerator costs $2992 and the residential refrigerator costs $1832. I guess you get to pay more $$$ since there is propane involved with the rv frig.
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Post by Chuck on Feb 23, 2018 11:11:19 GMT -5
Well just goes to show you how backwards my thinking goes, more for the RV frig  Glad we bought the show model an got a discount on our unit with all the bells an whistles Safe Travels  Chuck |
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Post by lovegolf44 on Apr 7, 2021 6:13:11 GMT -5
We have 2, 12volt deep cell batteries connected in parallel with a 18 CU FT 4-Door RV Refrigerator, keeps stuff frozen an cold while traveling no problem with on power no propane . The longest we have went is 8 hours without any problems, have never tried it overnight, but I believe it would work without any problems overnight an longer ... Safe Travels Chuck I'm going to be installing another deep cell in parallel as well. I swear my 18CU FT Samsung will not run on inverter alone. In fact, I plugged another 110v device into the frig outlet when running on battery only and there was no power. That doesn't sound right, I would think the frig outlet should be hot when dry camping and towing. I understand only certain outlets are hot in the Gold from what I've been reading from others on here. I hope another battery will make a difference but then again, my inverter is a Xantrex Freedom 1200W. Perhaps I should think about upgrading the inverter to 2kW to ensure my frig has plenty of power for startup and running. |
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Post by laknox on Apr 7, 2021 11:41:36 GMT -5
We have 2, 12volt deep cell batteries connected in parallel with a 18 CU FT 4-Door RV Refrigerator, keeps stuff frozen an cold while traveling no problem with on power no propane . The longest we have went is 8 hours without any problems, have never tried it overnight, but I believe it would work without any problems overnight an longer ... Safe Travels Chuck I'm going to be installing another deep cell in parallel as well. I swear my 18CU FT Samsung will not run on inverter alone. In fact, I plugged another 110v device into the frig outlet when running on battery only and there was no power. That doesn't sound right, I would think the frig outlet should be hot when dry camping and towing. I understand only certain outlets are hot in the Gold from what I've been reading from others on here. I hope another battery will make a difference but then again, my inverter is a Xantrex Freedom 1200W. Perhaps I should think about upgrading the inverter to 2kW to ensure my frig has plenty of power for startup and running. It only makes sense that the fridge plug would be on the inverter but, then, we =are= talking the RV industry where a lot of stuff makes about as much sense as the government does. Lyle |
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Post by ronc on Apr 9, 2021 14:55:30 GMT -5
I have the same residential refrigerator and I have two BIG AGM (210 amp hours each) batteries. Mine are both 12v so they are connected in parallel. If you used two 6v batteries, they would need to be connected in series. Thanks for the response. I didn't think one battery was sufficient. Does your refrigerator stay cold when you are on a long trip. Yes it does stay cold. When traveling, the truck supplies a slight charge to the batteries, which power the inverter, which provides AC for the frig. So when we're on the road, the refrigerator is running, so it does stay cold. |
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Post by laknox on Apr 12, 2021 10:46:14 GMT -5
I have a Samsung residential refrigerator in my Durango Gold. The unit came with one battery for the inverter (dealer indicated this is all that is required). Is most everyone using the one battery or are most people using two batteries linked parallel. After thinking about this for a while, I realized that this was designed to be used at a campground 99.9% of the time, where it will be plugged into shore power. The single battery (plus charging from the truck) would be more than enough to keep the fridge running while driving between campgrounds, where, usually, the first thing you do after getting parked is to plug the rig in. Now, if you like to boondock or camp in campgrounds with no hookups then, yes, you'll definitely want another battery or solar or a generator...or a combination of all of these. :-) Lyle |
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Post by ronc on Apr 15, 2021 14:26:13 GMT -5
Another comment in favor of two big batteries ... your residential refrigerator isn't the only thing that relies on battery power. Your slides and your leveling system also run off 12V DC. The greater capacity of two big batteries will ensure those systems operate smoothly. A battery (or battery bank) with good capacity will keep the motors of the leveling system and slides from overheating ... which will happen if the battery voltage drops too much during the operation of those systems.
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Post by lovegolf44 on Apr 16, 2021 5:42:06 GMT -5
I have a Samsung residential refrigerator in my Durango Gold. The unit came with one battery for the inverter (dealer indicated this is all that is required). Is most everyone using the one battery or are most people using two batteries linked parallel. After thinking about this for a while, I realized that this was designed to be used at a campground 99.9% of the time, where it will be plugged into shore power. The single battery (plus charging from the truck) would be more than enough to keep the fridge running while driving between campgrounds, where, usually, the first thing you do after getting parked is to plug the rig in. Now, if you like to boondock or camp in campgrounds with no hookups then, yes, you'll definitely want another battery or solar or a generator...or a combination of all of these. :-) Lyle I confirmed my camper does not supply inverter power to the outlet for the frig. Not sure why our particular model is wired that way but that's a game changer because that means we can't ever have our frig running when we're traveling on the road or dry camping. That's insane. |
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Post by laknox on Apr 16, 2021 15:21:14 GMT -5
Another comment in favor of two big batteries ... your residential refrigerator isn't the only thing that relies on battery power. Your slides and your leveling system also run off 12V DC. The greater capacity of two big batteries will ensure those systems operate smoothly. A battery (or battery bank) with good capacity will keep the motors of the leveling system and slides from overheating ... which will happen if the battery voltage drops too much during the operation of those systems. While I have 2 6v golf cart batteries, I unhitch, pull forward a bit, but remain plugged in to the truck while leveling and moving the slides out. If I'm boondocking, I leave the truck running for the few minutes it takes to level and put the slides out. If in a CG, I'll level while plugged in to the truck, but plug into the pedestal before putting the slides out. Bathroom is accessible so DW is usually in there while all this takes place. :-) Lyle |
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Post by laknox on Apr 16, 2021 15:22:57 GMT -5
After thinking about this for a while, I realized that this was designed to be used at a campground 99.9% of the time, where it will be plugged into shore power. The single battery (plus charging from the truck) would be more than enough to keep the fridge running while driving between campgrounds, where, usually, the first thing you do after getting parked is to plug the rig in. Now, if you like to boondock or camp in campgrounds with no hookups then, yes, you'll definitely want another battery or solar or a generator...or a combination of all of these. :-) Lyle I confirmed my camper does not supply inverter power to the outlet for the frig. Not sure why our particular model is wired that way but that's a game changer because that means we can't ever have our frig running when we're traveling on the road or dry camping. That's insane. That's like one of the guys here whose rig only has half the 110v plugs on the inverter because the inverter's smaller than advertised; 1200w vs 2000w. One of those X year components in a Y model year. Lyle |
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