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Post by arewethereyet on Aug 3, 2016 20:32:47 GMT -5
Thanks, understood, everyone's tolerance is different. Mine is not so much so i really appreciate the input. I want to get this right for sure.
I have talked to a couple of friends with 5th wheels and will go have a listen to what theirs sound like.
Yes, I can imagine that the cost of the dish would be alarming ... everything fluctuates with the dollar.
We are sitting around 35% right now compared to the USD.
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Post by ronc on Oct 20, 2016 18:21:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the tips on the drawers being all tucked away before opening the slides. Something I'm not sure I would have thought about. Also on the Satellite dish. I have talked to a few people around here and they say that they did not opt for the dish due to the difficulty of syncing up with the satellite. Trees and mountains limit the access? The units I've seen here all have had Goodyear tires (75 mph rating) on them so i think I'll be ok with those, but good point to note fore sure.Well, the offer was good ... and bad ... they accepted the offer with one minor exclusion but unfortunately sold the original unit. So,I am ordering a new one to arrive for early in 2017. It's not such a bad thing as we really only have a month (give or take) of good camping left around here and although I have been looking for a few weeks now, there are very limited sites available that will handle that size of a trailer. This will give me a chance to gather up all the other "stuff" we need and talk to more folks about their experiences. I have a buddy down in Oregon right now who keeps sending me some pretty enticing camping pictures. They have a 43ft toy hauler and a boat. (two trucks) thanks again M If the Goodyears you see on OEM trailers are E rated Goodyear Marathons, they are made in China. They ARE NOT the same as the G rated Goodyear 614's. Marathons are suspect and if they are ST tires, they are speed rated to 65 MPH (as are all ST tires). The 614's are LT tires. |
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Post by arewethereyet on Oct 20, 2016 22:23:09 GMT -5
Ok, very good, thanks ... I will check them out and ask.
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Post by shogunles on Dec 13, 2016 23:53:33 GMT -5
I have the Honda EU300is, and I Honda EU2000i and 1 Honda 2000i Companion. I use the 2000's for the fiver. The Companion has a 30 amp receptacle, which gives you a little more output than the 20 amp one.
However, another suggestion for you would be installing a inverter inside you fiver directly to your fuse panel, by way of a transfer switch. Along with more than 2 AGM Deep Cell batteries wired in parallel. I have a Samlex 2000w Pure Sine Wave Inverter in mine. I typically charge the batteries(4) with the generators, and I an good to go for about 30 hours. Depending on how much power I use. If you have the residential fridge, then it would be less. It is very convenient when you are boondocking. Although, it will not run your A/C. And it is very expensive equipment. However, you will save some in fuel or LP. Just thought I would mention another option, since it was not mentioned.
On the issue of tire replacement, no doubt you need to replace the 'China Bombs', right out of the barn. I purchased on my previous fiver, and my new Durango Gold, Sailun ST 637's. They are 14 ply G rated tires with a speed rating of 75 mph. I believe the max weight of each tire is just over 5,000 lb. I want to say 5,040. Yes they are made in China, not many tires aren't. However, on my last fiver, I traveled from NY to San Diego, and on up to Seattle, and back to NY on them. They were excellent. So after traveling over 6k miles, the tires still had plenty of tread on them. They still looked new to me! I would say these tires past the test for me. They are hard to find though. I just ordered 5 of them from Simpletire.com. I paid just under $700 for five tires with shipping for 235/80R16. They do have 85 if you want more height. The G rated Sailun accommodated the stock rims. Just be sure to replace the valve with a metal one. Hope this helps, good Luck!
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Post by arewethereyet on Dec 15, 2016 11:12:10 GMT -5
Thanks for the suggestions on the generators shogunles. I managed to negotiate an Onan 5500 into the deal so will be going with that one. I have heard good things about this unit from folks on here and others I have talked with who are using the same one.
Haven't thought much about an Inverter but will talk to the dealer and see if they think the cost would outweigh the benefits for me.
Right now, planning the Onan and a couple of solar panels to handle the power needs.
I'm sure that the tires will have to be replaced but disappointed that they have to be. While I understand the cheaper tires keeps the 5er costs down, effectively it doesn't as it seems most folks replace them pretty much right away. I'd rather pay more from the dealer and not have a useless set of tires taking up space. I haven't looked into which ones I will replace them with as the 5er won't be arriving until early spring 2017.
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Post by shogunles on Dec 15, 2016 14:57:57 GMT -5
I think you made the right decision on the onboard generator. The pros outweigh the cons on that. For us, we tend to use private parks with amenities than not. For the few times we boondock, the portables and inverter work out great. However, when we boondock in places like state parks and the like, they have restrictions on when you can run your generators. And never at night. This is where the inverter shines.
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Post by chipporter on Dec 19, 2016 14:29:50 GMT -5
The units I've seen here all have had Goodyear tires (75 mph rating) on them so i think I'll be ok with those, but good point to note fore sure. M Hi - Brand new here, and also have a 5ver on order. Please be aware that the Goodyears are NOT STANDARD EQUIPMENT. But if you catch 'em before it ships you should be able to d an upgrade (list is $1700 I believe). This upgrade to the stronger 110 PSI capable wheels (4 aluminum and 1 steel spare) and 5 G614 tires. But if you take delivery with the weaker wheels / tires, your stuff is now used and can't be upgraded. Just trying to prevent you from an unexpected surprise... Good luck! |
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Post by arewethereyet on Dec 19, 2016 17:57:48 GMT -5
Thanks very much.
I have learned very quickly that most everything is an option (sheesh, I'm at an additional $13k over the price of the unit) but as I have seen so many with the Goodyear tires on them, did not know that they were an upgrade as well ... I will be hopefully closing the deal in mid January and have added your comment to my notes of "stuff" to talk to them about.
Good luck with your unit as well !!
Mark
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Post by chipporter on Dec 19, 2016 18:23:28 GMT -5
Thanks Mark. Glad I caught you in time - at least you won't throw good money after bad! Mine is supposed to be built 3rd week in January (318 RLT). Good luck with yours, too!
Best,
Chip
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Post by shogunles on Dec 19, 2016 18:36:36 GMT -5
Thanks very much. I have learned very quickly that most everything is an option (sheesh, I'm at an additional $13k over the price of the unit) but as I have seen so many with the Goodyear tires on them, did not know that they were an upgrade as well ... I will be hopefully closing the deal in mid January and have added your comment to my notes of "stuff" to talk to them about. Good luck with your unit as well !! Mark Tires are probably one of the most debated issue on these forums. LT 14 ply, ST 14 ply, LT 10 ply, at 10 ply etc.. It will make your head spin. I have had good luck, knocking on wood, with the Sailun 14 ply. Maxxis is another good ST Tire. However, I believe they do not offer it in 14 ply as of now. Do your research, as you are, and narrow it down to either ST or LT. And then decide if you the weight of your fiver even needs 14 ply. Especially if you are on a budget. If I may pass along good advice given to me once, if you have to do some trimming, due to budget concerns, do not do it with the tires. Find it elsewhere if you can. Blowouts will cost you more than changing a tire and replacing the tire. And you may want to consider investing in a good TPMS for your fiver, when you recoup your finances from the sale. Another concern is space. LT tires, assuming you need 16" tires(not familiar with your unit), come in 85 height. You could have space issues between the tires if you have a narrow wheel base. The ST's come in 80 and 85, if you want more height. In the end, it is up to what you actually need, what you want to spend, and which tire you are more comfortable with. The best you can do is what you are doing, listening to others with their trail and error. Good Luck! |
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Post by cajuncamp on Apr 5, 2017 9:28:07 GMT -5
Looking at getting generator for my 366FBT. Started looking at Honda EU3000IS first , then after getting consulted not sure now. My unit has ( 2 ) 15k btu A/C w/heat pumps. Would only run one A/c until purchase additional EU3000. Figured in microwave, water heater + additional power items. Was told EU3000IS is to small for load. Then looked at Honda EU7000IS. This genni will run camper just fine as I'm told.
Now I see that I can put Cummins Onan 5.5. Only problem is don't want LP unit. Looking further in Cummins manual under fuel system accessories P.72. I can get a gasoline tank kit. Is this possible to work and get away from LP.
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Post by Chuck on Apr 5, 2017 13:50:51 GMT -5
I do not not know about the Onan 5.5, we have a EU6.5 Honda and love it, runs our new to us 5th wheel just fine so far
when testing with both Air A/C on during my testing, thus since it's still cold an trailer is winterized ....
Only problem I see with the EU6.5 and EU7000 is it's about 10 inches above the bed rail an thus it must be placed up
front in the bed of the truck to not interfere with your 5th wheel nose/cap. Were the EU3000 is below, but the EU3000
will defectively not support two A/C's only one ...
Good luck, safe travels
Chuck
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Post by cajuncamp on Apr 5, 2017 20:20:51 GMT -5
I do not not know about the Onan 5.5, we have a EU6.5 Honda and love it, runs our new to us 5th wheel just fine so far when testing with both Air A/C on during my testing, thus since it's still cold an trailer is winterized .... Only problem I see with the EU6.5 and EU7000 is it's about 10 inches above the bed rail an thus it must be placed up front in the bed of the truck to not interfere with your 5th wheel nose/cap. Were the EU3000 is below, but the EU3000 will defectively not support two A/C's only one ... Good luck, safe travels Chuck I'm thankful living in south Louisiana I shouldn't have to winterize. You said your EU 6.5 which is now EU 7000IS runs both A/Cs. What size A/Cs are on your rig? The unit I have has a rack on back end w/400 lbs rating. If I go the EU route I will put gen. on back end. |
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Post by rvdude on Apr 5, 2017 20:42:44 GMT -5
My trailer has an Onan 5500 in it and while I haven't used it that much yet, I have started it at storage several times and ran both air conditioners with no problem while I was working inside the trailer. I like it.
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Post by shogunles on Apr 5, 2017 21:06:08 GMT -5
Looking at getting generator for my 366FBT. Started looking at Honda EU3000IS first , then after getting consulted not sure now. My unit has ( 2 ) 15k btu A/C w/heat pumps. Would only run one A/c until purchase additional EU3000. Figured in microwave, water heater + additional power items. Was told EU3000IS is to small for load. Then looked at Honda EU7000IS. This genni will run camper just fine as I'm told. Now I see that I can put Cummins Onan 5.5. Only problem is don't want LP unit. Looking further in Cummins manual under fuel system accessories P.72. I can get a gasoline tank kit. Is this possible to work and get away from LP. Although the Honda eu3000is is a great generator and great tool all around, it will not be able to support the condenser start up watts on a 15k A/C. If you use 2 eu2000, with one being a Companion with the 30A outlet, then it will support it. However, it will be running at max the entire time the A/C is running. The next step up is the Honda 7000. Which will do anything your want. However, considering the 3000 is about 135 lbs, the weight of carrying it around and such would be a big issue for me. The Onan may be the way to go for your power needs. |
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Post by Chuck on Apr 7, 2017 0:20:41 GMT -5
I do not not know about the Onan 5.5, we have a EU6.5 Honda and love it, runs our new to us 5th wheel just fine so far when testing with both Air A/C on during my testing, thus since it's still cold an trailer is winterized .... Only problem I see with the EU6.5 and EU7000 is it's about 10 inches above the bed rail an thus it must be placed up front in the bed of the truck to not interfere with your 5th wheel nose/cap. Were the EU3000 is below, but the EU3000 will defectively not support two A/C's only one ... Good luck, safe travels Chuck I'm thankful living in south Louisiana I shouldn't have to winterize. You said your EU 6.5 which is now EU 7000IS runs both A/Cs. What size A/Cs are on your rig? The unit I have has a rack on back end w/400 lbs rating. If I go the EU route I will put gen. on back end. My AC's are in living area 15M BTU an the OPT 13.5M BTU in our bedroom Be aware that the Honda 6.5 or the 7K are really heavy, the 3K is much, much lighter, I'm not sure but another OP stated 135pds, I helped lift one off the back of a pickup a few years ago an I would say it's all of that  The EU 6.5 we have I would not even try to lift it off the tailgate of my truck. I use a engine host to put it in and take it off ... I believe my back rack states no more than 500pds, personally I would think twice about putting even the EU3000 back there due to the cost and differently not the EU6.5 for the same reason. Our 5th wheel is really heavy as it is, start adding 2 or 3 hundred extra more pounds on it adds up out here, I have to pull some 15 or 16 mile maybe longer 5 percent grades out here, the up isn't to bad, it the going down those grades with the extra weight that worry's me even thought I have been over them 8 or 9 dozen times with heaver trucks (70k to 75K or more loaded) |
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The EU 6.5 we have I would not even try